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avteam1
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I was looking at putting a limiter on all of the singing mics because at times during songs its too loud. Any tips or suggestions on how you guys do this? I dont know what attack and release settings iI should use...

Any help would be great.
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Are you sure limiting is what you want? i would lean towards compression first, then as a last resort some limiting.. are you needing this done in a live setting, or on recorded tracks?
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I have compression already in play and may need to do some adjusting. But I've been running with virtually no limiter. This is for a live setting.
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play with the compressor a bit... ill bet you can get the results you want with a combination of both. try setting the ratio on the compressor a little higher, (depending on how dynamic the singers are) say 8:1 or even more if necessary. set the threshold a little lower so the vocal track stays compressed more of the time, and finally put a brick-wall limiter on to catch any really wild peaks.. i would recommend just playing with it until you get the results you want.. you can record a vocal track yourself, (even just talking) and see how the settings on both compressors and limiters change the dynamics of the track. what kinds of gear are you running? interfaces, DAW, mixer etc?
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Sorry for the delay. Check the signature.
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The 16.4.2 limiters will not help you as the treshold is at 0dBfs, waay to high for anything but gear protection. Something you can do is routing all singers to a subgroup or a pair of subgroups. Your linked mixers give you 8 subgroups so you should be able to spare one or two. What that gives you is an extra set of FAT parameters for the vocals. Then you can use the channel compressors as limiters (high ratio) and the subgroup compressor as the more musical compressor (lower ratio) to gel everything together. I advise against doing it the other way round!
 
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