Need Help Routing Studio One Track To And From Outboard Gear

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OK.. I've tried this for about an hour without success, so any help would be greatly appreciated. I want to be able to route the output of a S1 track to an outboard channel strip (Presonus Studio Channel) and then bring it back into S1 on another track. I have Studio One Pro and AudioBox 44VSL. I have LineOut 4 of the 44VSL cabled to the Line In on the Studio Channel and the Line Out of the Studio Channel to Input 4 on the 44VSL. I have the AudioBox Ins/Outs set like this...

...................Mic1...Mic2...Mic3...Mic 4

Input L+R .....L........R
Input L...........M
Input R................... M
Input 1..............................M
Input 2.......................................M

-----------------------------------------------

........................Main1.Main2..Out3..Out4
Main....................L.........R
Line Out 3...............................M
Line Out 4.........................................M

I think this is right but maybe it's not.

I have a vocal on Mono Track 1 and I want to route that vocal to the Studio Channel, then bring in back in into S1 on Mono Track 2... can this be done? If so, any guidance on how to do it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Fred

Have you created and setup the ins and outs in the song matrix?

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thanks for responding. yes. I have it set up in S1 like this...

Input:

..................Mic1...Mic2...Mic3...Mic 4

Input L+R .....L........R
Input L...........M
Input R................... M
Input 1..............................M
Input 2.......................................M

-----------------------------------------------

Output:

........................Main1.Main2..Out3..Out4
Main....................L.........R
Line Out 3...............................M
Line Out 4.........................................M

after further troubleshooting there is no signal being sent to Line Out 4 of the 44VSL. I guess I don't have it set up in S1 correctly.

I want to be able to route the output of a S1 track to an outboard channel strip (Presonus Studio Channel) and then bring it back into S1 on another track.

The easiest way to do this kinda stuff is to just turn on all of you I/O and use the Pipeline plugin.

Put Pipeline on the first track and only use the send /output assignment. Put another instance of Pipeline on the return track and only use the return / input assignment.

Hope that helps. HNY

thanks for the pipeline tip.. i'll check that out.

it appears from reading this post that the 44VSL does not have independent line outs so what i'm trying to do is not possible with the 44VSL.

http://forumsarchive.presonus.com/posts/list/16302.page

The 44VSL manual states... "Line Outputs (AudioBox 44VSL Only). The AudioBox 44VSL
has four line outputs to route to external devices, such as headphone amps and DJ mixers. Outputs 1 and 2 share their playback streams with the Main Outs and the headphone output. Outputs 3 and 4 have independent playback streams."

So is the manual incorrect??

The reasons to go trade this interface in for a Saffire Pro40 are piling up!

>>Outputs 3 and 4 have independent playback streams

That sounds like independent outs to me.

I do this stuff without pipeline.

Like for my ext synth I created an instrument device. Then to hear it I have to have a track with that instrument as the source and have the monitor button on.

I'm not at the computer right now but I think you have to have a device created for any input or output.

If I remember right.

I have a VL2 on a S/Pdif loop like that, works fine, maybe pipeline would be cleaner (implementation wise), have to look at that myself.

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I don't know who said the 44VSL has no independent outs but that is incorrect. And in fact, you don't need the pipeline plugin either if you're sending to headphone amps or external processors. All you need to do is assign the outs in the matrix and they will be available to any track. Plain and simple.

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OK, looked at my setup, I just send the track output to the vl2 and then input for another track from vl2,

So I didn't make devices for them, just renamed them.

I like to rename the I/O bus's names that help me remember what the heck I'm doing because I will forget.

I had to create a device to send midi to the vl2.

Seems like your setup should work.

You have to have the monitor button on the return track to hear it.

yep... just go into your I/O settings and assign them and rename them if you want to whatever is connected to it .. then on the return track input assign it to the mains to monitor it...

Gosh guys.

Sure, you can patch in external gear manally but Pipeline makes it easier (the key word in my previous comment). That's what the plugin is there for, to have those routings be setup with presets that can be recalled at will.

I actually don't recall saying it was necessary or that anyone had to use it. I only said it was easy.

LMike wrote:Gosh guys.

Sure, you can patch in external gear manally but Pipeline makes it easier (the key word in my previous comment). That's what the plugin is there for, to have those routings be setup with presets that can be recalled at will.

I actually don't recall saying it was necessary or that anyone had to use it. I only said it was easy.

Sorry. I didn't mean it like it came out man. I was more talking about sending headphone signals or just sending to an external mixer.

I believe I have the matrix set up correctly, I assign the track output to line out 4 which I've created in the matrix and cannot get anything to go the output 4 on the 44vSL. I even tried re-installing the current VSL firmware. maybe theres a problem with my 44VSL.

themuzic wrote:Sorry. I didn't mean it like it came out man. I was more talking about sending headphone signals or just sending to an external mixer.

No need to apologize my friend, we're all just illuminating the various choices available to the OP. Only he can decide what might be the best path for his random use cases.

I was 'politely suggesting' that Pipeline (in some cases) allows a bit of additional flexibility when returning signals back to the daw from hardware like the OP was doing. One advantage is not having to monitor the input of an audio track to hear it because the Pipeline return signal is directly injected into the audio channel. Another potential advantage is that it also allows bringing returned signals directly into the console (into a group bus channel for example, instead of an audio track) which you can't do directly with a hardware audio input.

Thanks Batman. Happy 2014 (and beyond) to you and your loved ones.