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uvlight
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What I am missing is:

* delete track action should delete connected instrument (as adding new tracks does both)
* new tracks should never appear to the right of my mixer groups!
* selection of multiple events on automation always selects full height!
** This is not intuitive and makes editing complicated.
**Use Case (I think its common):
*** Select only those events of same or similar value in some time period.

I very much hope those little things which are not a flashing feature don't get forgotten over time

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uvlight wrote:
* delete track action should delete connected instrument (as adding new tracks does both)


for the last two items, but the first one not. And the reason is simple. This would seriously kill any workflow involving multi-timbral instruments or even instrument that have several tracks routing to them. For example I have Impact and I have all the different types of sound on individual tracks. For example a kick track, a snare track and a hihat track. I do a lot of drum programming and they include a lot of ghost notes. For me to keep an overview I have devided stuff over multiple tracks. So if I don't like the percussion stuff and through out the track, then all my other tracks would be without an instrument.

Kontakt is a very often used plugin, which is also multi timbral. I can have two separate synths coming out a single instance of Kontakt. If I throw away the first track, I'd have to reconfigure Kontakt all over again, as I need to create a new instance.

Just my point of view.
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uvlight wrote:What I am missing is:

* delete track action should delete connected instrument (as adding new tracks does both)


That topic was also discussed here: http://forumsarchive.presonus.com/posts/list/2686.page#15943
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Thanks for the reference, I knew there was some discussion in the past, but couldn't find it that quickly.
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Motoko wrote:Thanks for the reference, I knew there was some discussion in the past, but couldn't find it that quickly.


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good point,
so the delete instrument logic needs to be smarter and should ask you only when its the last track assigned to the instrument if you want to delete the instrument also (maybe with an always yes check box on it)

i noticed this when I was trying out a lot of instruments.
deleting the track and deleting the instrument was quite far apart on my screens
so checking out the instrument is quick, getting rid of it not so....
this kind of breaks the workflow of quickly trying out instrument plugins
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You know you can drag the plugins to existing tracks to replace the current plugin on that track?
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uvlight wrote:good point,
so the delete instrument logic needs to be smarter and should ask you only when its the last track assigned to the instrument if you want to delete the instrument also (maybe with an always yes check box on it)

I totally agree with this. I was trying to come up with a melody line using a few different VSTi's the other day, deleting each as I went...Only to find I had a bunch of stuff in my "song". I then had to try and find which ones i did/did not use in the past...this really slowed down my workflow.

It would be great if when deleting the track and it's linked to a VSTi, that it also deletes the VSTi reference IF it is not associated with any other track! If it is associated with it, then perhaps a popup question "This {VSTi} is used by track one, do you really want to delete it?"...or something like that.

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"quote" and default tags don't seem to be working properly in the forum tonight!!
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Just hit edit and resave the message. There's been something wrong since a couple of days.
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Thanks! Yep, that was weird! xD
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On topic: Maybe the USED ones could be coloured yellow like the way used hardware shows up? (and non-used a darker grey?)
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PreSonified wrote:On topic: Maybe the USED ones could be coloured yellow like the way used hardware shows up? (and non-used a darker grey?)


An instrument that doesn't have tracks assigned to it is already marked dark grey in the instrument list of the Console (like Impact 4 in the screenshot below).
What comes in handy is the ability to rename instruments in that list, so that you can give them meaningful names.


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uvlight wrote:* selection of multiple events on automation always selects full height!
**Use Case (I think its common):
*** Select only those events of same or similar value in some time period.

Press ALT before drawing the selection...

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