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Well, Presonus has been working on a website problem for me, and asked me to confirm their changes by posting a topic. So here's one for all y'all. So, does anybody have recommendations for a large diaphragm dynamic microphone for a doghouse bass for live concert situations?
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what is doghouse bass?
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Doghouse bass: upright bass, stand-up bass, bass fiddle, double bass
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ahhh, funny. Never heard of that one, must be before my time.

I like to use a 57. or small diaphragm condenser. kick drum mic ends up being too boomy for my taste, when the meat, or character of the instrument is higher up in the frequency scale.

I typically do the poor-mans shockmount with some rubber bands and a mic. I'll attach an image of it, if you've never done it I encourage you to try it out. There is probably lots of info online about the technique.
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In our case, we are not running any subs. So we want the boom that a kickdrum mic provides.
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i do a d6 with subs. big bass and big sound
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Doghouse refers more to playing stle than a particular type of bass, although it is usually played on an acoustic upright. Doghouse style involves a lot of hyper percussive techniques (lots of slapping and bouncing of the stings against the fingerboard, etc -- think rockabilliy or high energy bluegrass, for example).

I've never tried suspended a pencil mic in the bridge -- I'll have to try that soon.

Personally, I wouldn't use a 57 on bass. Possibly a Sennheiser 421, an EV RE20 (or similar), a Heil PR40, or something like that. I'd want something more sensitive and less bulky than an SM7, but an SM7 wouldn't be bad. I prefer a condenser on bass, generally, and it really doesn't need to be large diaphragm. As chrisatrational said, a lot of the important part of the overall sound is in the highs, and a small diaphragm condenser is usually just as adept a picking up the boomy low end as a larger mic is. I wouldn't use a kick drum mic for bass. Sometimes the response curve of a kick mic is tailored in ways that wouldn't be all that flattering or give enough HF definition for my tastes. YMMV. Try out the things you have at your diposal and see what sounds best. What sounds best to you out of what is available to you is the way to go -- trust your own ears to guide you.
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A condenser may sound good on strings but with bluegrass I try to stay from them. To many mics in to small of a space = to many problems...
The D6 on a shorty stand also keeps the guy from pointing the mic at the monitor. I have had guys lay a 58 in the bridge, turn sideways pointing the mic at a floor wedge then look at me because they don't hear the bass... I just wave and say sounds good from here
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Studio one,2 pro
Mac Book Pro,Ipad,Ipod,Iphone,airport express,
ithis, ithat, ieverything, "Presonus made me do it"
6 yamaha DSR 112
4 EAW LA 400
2 EV ELX 118P
2 Mackie 350
3 Line 6 wireless and lots of wired mics, I think I'm up to about 42(anybody know of a cheeper hobby?)
coustom cases for everything
 
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