image description


How to get my music out there....Properly
  Forum Index » Copyrighting, Demo Tips, Press Kits, ASCAP/BMI Membership 
Author
Message
DRobinson
Prenoob

Joined: 11/02/2013 19:20:04
Messages: 45
Offline

Hey, what's my fellow Presonians

So I finally have the bigger question, the one that comes after a project is close to completion or almost done, I want to know how do I get my music out there the right way? Perhaps I should start from the top so that my story and my ideas are easier for my fellow forum surfers to understand.....

As much I enjoy the music, there are also other components that are part my current project's completion, such as original artwork, lyrics, a cartoon character design and a few other things as well like I have clothing design ideas but perhaps I'll save those questions for another day. I want my music to float around the air and get a little mention and even though I have other ideas in the woks as well I want to make sure that I'm not considered lame and all that good jazz. By the way I love jazz music but this indie hip hop and I want to make sure that my hard work and time are noticed and understood especially with the circumstances that I've been dealt, and yes I'm aware that every artist has a story but I do think my is worth a little interest.
correct

I always come full circle back to the mistakes that I've made in the past and how I wish to correct those things as best as I possible can but I'm literally all on my own in this endeavor, and what's funny is that my first passion has always been cartoons. I want my music to be heard first and then the visuals to come secondary once I have a way to produce and put time in for the animation ideas. I like how I truly started listening to hip hop when I first heard Blu's Below the Heavens album, after that it has kind of been a strange journey to where I'm at now. I've had the honor to meet a few other hip hop heads but my favorite encounter was when I met an MC known as Verbs, we even went to the same high school which was kind of cool and to me it's as though we have similar mind sets as far lyrics and just thoughts about the world in general. I even have a cartoon character idea for him and that's why I want to put in the work to become the best lyricist that I can be and properly get my sound out there. And of course there's always that one young woman has drives an artist and I think I've found that person, so I continue to do my best even though sometimes it doesn't seem that way.

But lets fast forward to the present,. If at all possible I would like to get some feedback and help on as to how I can publish my music, copyright, and just all around own my work so that I'm not getting any kind of "Short end of the stick scenario". Any websites to research, any step by step guide lines to follow would be greatly appreciated because even though my music is a bit "Out There" I think it's worth hearing and I believe it can spark a change in peoples live or at least those who truly understand it because that's what music is all about right? I listen to the dudes from the Rhymesayers roster all the time as well as guys like Despot, MF Doom, Homeboy Sandman, Intuition, and Elzhi all the time and there styles are just so unique to the point where I wish I could sound like that and I think that's another reason why I listen to artists that I enjoy listening to because overall they're just auditorily cool.

I hope I get a little from those who know the business aspect of the industry a little better whether it be for the music, the animation industry or both. Any feedback would be greatly noted and I want to say thank you in advance to anyone who even takes the time to look over this essay like forum post.
All I have is Windows 7, Studio One Artist Edition, Presonus AudioBox, M7 Condenser mic, and some Califone headphones with the prefered coiled cord... That should be enough for a noob right?
Oh yeah, and the AKAI MPD32!!!
Julia B
Presonoid
[Avatar]

Joined: 23/01/2011 23:09:59
Messages: 1244
Location: Seattle WA
Offline

Copyright the music first. Then it's marketing and it's a pain in the ass. it's a lot of work. Marketing is where a lot of artists fall flat because they don't know how to do it. Well, we all can't be experts in every field.

There are people who know how to do this kind of stuff. Talk to some people who have made it. Network. It's hard work. Writing music and putting it down, recording it, mixing it and getting the CD out is the easy stuff.

There are all sorts of people willing to take your money and they're going to be pushy, so you're going to have to interview people.

"The music business is uglier than most things. It is normally perceived as some kind of cruel and shallow money trench through the heart of the entertainment industry, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs, for no good reason." -- Hunter S. Thompson (paraphrased) "Generation of Swine: Tales of Shame and Degradation in the '80s" (it was originally TV business, journalism industry)
Creation Station 400 Sweetwater Intel i7 Sandy Bridge 3.4 GHz
16 GB Ram
C:\ 500 GB Seagate 7200 rpm
D:\ 1 TB Seagate 7200 rpm
F: \ : 1 TB WD Caviar Black 7200 rpm SATA Libraries
Win 7 Home Premium 64 SP1
Focusrite Saffire6 USB

Studio One Pro 2.6.2; Pro Tools 8.0.5; Cubase 7

Sugarbytes Cyclop, Arturia V Collection, Ivory II, EWQL Symphonic Orchestra Platinum Plus, EWQL VOP, EWQL Symphonic Choirs, Komplete 9, AEON, Evolve, Evolve Damage, Evolve Mutations, Alicia's Keys, MOTU Ethno-Instrument, Addictive Drums, Yellow Tools Candy, Garritan JABB3, GPO4, Vir2 Electri6ity, Omnisphere, Stylus, Reason 6.5, Sony Soundforge 10, Miroslav Philharmonic & Choir, Waves Gold bundle, Maserati Bundle, Vocal Rider, Melodyne Editor, Sibelius.



DRobinson
Prenoob

Joined: 11/02/2013 19:20:04
Messages: 45
Offline

Wow, thank you, even though that is quite a bit to process I like the context in which you've put things. I would like to ask you, as far as copyrighting goes does that mean sending in the complete song or just the words? I've never really understood the copyrighting process.

Once again thank you for all your help and I look forward to hearing from you again.
All I have is Windows 7, Studio One Artist Edition, Presonus AudioBox, M7 Condenser mic, and some Califone headphones with the prefered coiled cord... That should be enough for a noob right?
Oh yeah, and the AKAI MPD32!!!
Julia B
Presonoid
[Avatar]

Joined: 23/01/2011 23:09:59
Messages: 1244
Location: Seattle WA
Offline

You can copyright the lyrics only if that's all you want to copyright, but that's like a poem. Otherwise It's sending the complete song with the words. You can send a recording of the song with the words. That works too. I think. Some of my stuff I just have digital recordings of and sent in. That song is copyrighted. Good luck transcribing it. You can do it yourself directly with the US Gov. or you can pay someone to prepare the documents for you. It's like doing your own taxes vs paying an accountant. Once you learn how to do your own, you save money.

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/

http://www.legalzoom.com/legal-copyrights/copyrights-overview.html

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 20/07/2013 07:22:18

Creation Station 400 Sweetwater Intel i7 Sandy Bridge 3.4 GHz
16 GB Ram
C:\ 500 GB Seagate 7200 rpm
D:\ 1 TB Seagate 7200 rpm
F: \ : 1 TB WD Caviar Black 7200 rpm SATA Libraries
Win 7 Home Premium 64 SP1
Focusrite Saffire6 USB

Studio One Pro 2.6.2; Pro Tools 8.0.5; Cubase 7

Sugarbytes Cyclop, Arturia V Collection, Ivory II, EWQL Symphonic Orchestra Platinum Plus, EWQL VOP, EWQL Symphonic Choirs, Komplete 9, AEON, Evolve, Evolve Damage, Evolve Mutations, Alicia's Keys, MOTU Ethno-Instrument, Addictive Drums, Yellow Tools Candy, Garritan JABB3, GPO4, Vir2 Electri6ity, Omnisphere, Stylus, Reason 6.5, Sony Soundforge 10, Miroslav Philharmonic & Choir, Waves Gold bundle, Maserati Bundle, Vocal Rider, Melodyne Editor, Sibelius.



DRobinson
Prenoob

Joined: 11/02/2013 19:20:04
Messages: 45
Offline

Okay so it's been a little while since I've added to these thoughts on how to get my music out there.

I have done some research and found that I am able to upload and send in a compilation of music that I've created along with artwork for a fee.
My next question is this, as an artist I have many skills, I'm something of a jack of all trades type of guy but I would really like to see my work come to life.

I was wondering, because I want to use my artist name for my music as well as use it for my animation ideas would that all fall under the same DBA? For example, if I had an artist name like Bugs the Bunny for my music and then I created an animation that fell under the same name that wouldn't require a separate filing fee would it? I mean I'm sure one would have to copyright the character design of the cartoon of course or could that all be in the same packet as well? I do understand though that when filing a DBA there is an area if I wanted to put multiple names of use, like Bugs the mischievous bunny or Bugs the cunning rabbit

Now wouldn't it make sense to file my DBA, then copyright my music when I feel that it is perfect. Even if a person releases a free compilation of music, they would still have there musician name copyrighted along with all the artwork and things like that right?

If anyone has any ideas or anymore information regarding this topic I would appreciate it.
All I have is Windows 7, Studio One Artist Edition, Presonus AudioBox, M7 Condenser mic, and some Califone headphones with the prefered coiled cord... That should be enough for a noob right?
Oh yeah, and the AKAI MPD32!!!
mwright137
Presonificator
[Avatar]

Joined: 28/10/2011 17:57:00
Messages: 3878
Location: Central PA
Offline

You don't copyright a musician name. That's to do with trademarks. You copyright a work of art. Or other things, but for us it's art. Whether that's a drawing or lyrics or a song, it's all art. But there are different types of copyright.

Then there are different copyrights, and they all have different fees. You can copyright your song. That's easy. $35 is the current rate, and if you have a bunch of songs that you wrote you can copyright them all for that same $35. This is a PA coypright (Performing Arts).

Then there's the recording. That's a different copyright and has its own fee. The studios used to get these, but if you are doing your own work, get it copyrighted. This is a SR copyright (Sound Recording).

Finally for this discussion, artwork. That's a third fee and a different kind of copyright. I have no idea what this one is called because I don't do my own artwork.
I am Sir Melvis Bacon, Knight of BaconHam Palace.

MacBook Pro 13. OS X Mavericks - version 10.9.3
StudioLive 16.4.2; StudioLive 328AI (x2)
AudioBox 22 VSL; BlueTube DP V2; FaderPort; Monitor Station; FireStudio Project (x2)
Studio One 2 Pro 2.6.2 (64 bit)
I use Gobbler to back up my projects.
[WWW]
DRobinson
Prenoob

Joined: 11/02/2013 19:20:04
Messages: 45
Offline

Alright so I understand that, I was reading an article that basically summed up the information that I needed. But I do need help understanding one portion of it.

The website is this one
http://indieambassador.com/articles/ten-copyright-questions-answered

And the article stated that,

Assuming you’ll be filing a sound recording copyright (specifically for sounds, not lyrics, sheet music, or production, which are all separate), also known as SR (the fine print can be found under title 17 of the U.S. copyright code, or here). You can register online (after making a free account) for $35, or with paper the old school way for $65. If you’re interested in saving money, you can register a volume of songs at once for a flat fee of $35 or $65, but it’s smarter to register them all separately as a “collection” if you have the money to do so. Doing this is very important if some of the songs have different authorship. Moreover, if a publisher wants one of your songs, and another artist wants the publishing rights to another one of your songs, it would simplify the process exponentially because each song will have its own registration number.

Its the last portion of the paragraph that I don't understand, what do they mean by different authorship? Because I wrote all my songs and recorded them myself but the instrumentals I used were found online. So this would mean I would have to include their names as well right? Because it is a Sound Recording.

Now if I copyright my album in full with the songs mastered to the best of my ability, I would want to just post them up for download on a website called Bandcamp.com. It would be free to download of course because in a way its just me displaying what I've learned so far.

That makes sense, right?
All I have is Windows 7, Studio One Artist Edition, Presonus AudioBox, M7 Condenser mic, and some Califone headphones with the prefered coiled cord... That should be enough for a noob right?
Oh yeah, and the AKAI MPD32!!!
 
Forum Index » Copyrighting, Demo Tips, Press Kits, ASCAP/BMI Membership
Go to: