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moraldecay31
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im in on this one!!!
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My mix entry FWIW...



Web link with mix details and for the "flash challenged" who can't see the embedded player... https://soundcloud.com/audiocave/the-audio-cave
I felt a duty to post it here since it was mixed in S1... for better or worse.

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I'm working on mine. I'll post it up when I get done.
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Here's mine: I wanted to kick the vocal up a bit and bring the drums and percussion more to the front.

http://snd.sc/ZNlhJK

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working on mine... but i want to ask a question about it. being a musician and singer... i have never tried to do production engineering in a professional setting or manner. i am still learning at a snail's pace. i have entered remix contests in the past just for shits and giggles but this is WAY different. it is just a mix contest... and according to the pdf instructions we are not to try to make a production or even master finished entry. the way i understand it (with my disability i don't do well with written instruction) it is basically level mixing or what you guys call gain staging and we are to leave plenty of 'headroom'. in the pdf it gives a rough guideline of -18db preferably. and Dupont, i think his name is, says he is gonna normalize all entires when judging them.

it talks of NOT using compressors or expanders and such that you would normally use if you were doing a production piece. it on the other hand says you can use things to work out technical issues if needed but to be as transparent as possible.

so what i am asking... what are we allowed to use other than line levels, panning and EQ? it sounds to me that he wants no 'colorization' of any kind. AND from the drop of a hat there are TWO major technical problems staring you in the face as soon as you drop the raw stems into the DAW. the vocals are WAY too dry and the guitar has WAY too much reverb that CANNOT be removed.... it is the reverb on the amp and it is recorded into the stem. and since the whole piece starts with the guitar with too much reverb... it sets the 'ambient tone' for the whole work.

if they do not want 'colorization' of the tracks just the blended mix... then are we allowed to use reverb or anything like that to fill and blend the mix? i think it DID say that we can use tools at our disposal but to make them as transparent as possible. i ask for opinions or verification because i DO NOT want to shoot myself in the foot before i get out of the chute! lol

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mwright137
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Working on one myself. What the heck...
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mech2161
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jBranam wrote:working on mine... but i want to ask a question about it. being a musician and singer... i have never tried to do production engineering in a professional setting or manner. i am still learning at a snail's pace. i have entered remix contests in the past just for shits and giggles but this is WAY different. it is just a mix contest... and according to the pdf instructions we are not to try to make a production or even master finished entry. the way i understand it (with my disability i don't do well with written instruction) it is basically level mixing or what you guys call gain staging and we are to leave plenty of 'headroom'. in the pdf it gives a rough guideline of -18db preferably. and Dupont, i think his name is, says he is gonna normalize all entires when judging them.

it talks of NOT using compressors or expanders and such that you would normally use if you were doing a production piece. it on the other hand says you can use things to work out technical issues if needed but to be as transparent as possible.

so what i am asking... what are we allowed to use other than line levels, panning and EQ? it sounds to me that he wants no 'colorization' of any kind. AND from the drop of a hat there are TWO major technical problems staring you in the face as soon as you drop the raw stems into the DAW. the vocals are WAY too dry and the guitar has WAY too much reverb that CANNOT be removed.... it is the reverb on the amp and it is recorded into the stem. and since the whole piece starts with the guitar with too much reverb... it sets the 'ambient tone' for the whole work.

if they do not want 'colorization' of the tracks just the blended mix... then are we allowed to use reverb or anything like that to fill and blend the mix? i think it DID say that we can use tools at our disposal but to make them as transparent as possible. i ask for opinions or verification because i DO NOT want to shoot myself in the foot before i get out of the chute! lol



What I get is you can do anything you like to the mix with the understanding to not smash it with compressors to gain volume. It would be something you would submit to be mastered. Color each channel to taste without compressing the main or adding a reverb to the main to blend it. Get the best mix you can within the tracks given keeping plenty of headroom. They will normalize mixes if they are to low, as needed.
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thanks mech. i understood that better! i like Dupont and the way he teaches... really enjoyed watching the videos and i did learn a bit... like i said... i am learning slowly but surely.

i was wanting to add ambiance to the vocals because she don't even sound like she was recorded in the same building... extremely dry with no air space. and combine that with the overbearing spring reverb on the egnater in the stem really concerned me. how can you be transparent and fix that with nothin' to work with. i took it as the expander/compressor were just examples since he referenced people making it louder to gain an edge in the contest. i was WAY off base. with that... i can now fix the problems that are there.

i think we were thrown a curve ball though... the videos sounded more even than the stems we downloaded. if you look at the wave forms you can plainly see the vocals are like 3x louder than the guitar and the guitar is 3x louder than the bass. i am thinking after watching the videos and downloading the stems that 'someone' twisted a few knobs to screw it up a bit so we have to work at it. but i ain't bitchin'... that is the whole point to the exercise.

again... thnx mech for helping me understand. the instructions to me were kinda vague. and it don't help that i am ADDHD.
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I haven't downloaded it yet, but how many tracks are there in the mix? Reason I'm asking is that I'm in a big project now, but those monitors sure look nice. But y'all ain't worried about a half-deaf lady, anyway.

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that was funny julia... looks like we have a few cripples around here! lol your half-deaf and i am bi-polar & addhd and classified as mentally disabled.

anyways... there is 7 raw stems and 1 instruction pdf file

and btw... break a leg... i mean good luck! if i win the monitors and you win the UAD Octo... we can trade!

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Oh hell I got the BP going too. It might be good practice. Mixing 7 audio tracks. Because on that big project I've got to mix like 28 -- fun times in a DAW I'm not that familar with. Damn I wish they'd figure out what the hell was going on. Okay I'm downloading them. This is going to be fun.
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Overheads are on a stereo track so it's ALMOST like 8 tracks...lol
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I'm in. Now if I could only understand this idiotic user manual I'd kick all your a$$e$. If I were using Garageband I'd be done by now.
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And Matthewgorman throws down the gauntlet.

Tell you what. Since none of us really stand a chance in this. There are going to be people with over $30,000 of gear and room treatment entered in this, let's request we have this post pinned for a while and post our mix of this in it, and do our own little critiques. Let's learn something. This will mean growing some thick skins, I know. Yours truly here.
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Julia B wrote:And Matthewgorman throws down the gauntlet.

Tell you what. Since none of us really stand a chance in this. There are going to be people with over $30,000 of gear and room treatment entered in this, let's request we have this post pinned for a while and post our mix of this in it, and do our own little critiques. Let's learn something. This will mean growing some thick skins, I know. Yours truly here.


Great Idea. Better yet, lets handicap ourselves and do it in Mixcraft, the bestest DAW in the world. I hear its really easy to learn, and should have everything we need to compete......and then some.
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