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nelsoncolt
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Hello;

I plan on buying the SL24.4.2, and the Studio One software this Fall.
I have been reading as many reviews as I can from various sources, including recording magazines, and I have seen a few comments about the SL24.4.2 NOT being a good choice for using as a computer interface for recording...........is this true?
imac 21.5" 3.06 GHz intel core 2 duo
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Monolithent
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I would say it isn't true. There are many early adopters of the SL16 on here and there were a few growing pains with it but we stuck with it and Presonus stuck by us. The SL24 is a solid leap forward off of the SL16 platform and has many issues already answered while adding strong, new capabilities.

As long as you have a sufficiently capable computer to stream the channels you should be just fine. And don't go by everything that is written on the forum. We are only a very small percentage of the total number of users of these machines.

The only caveats I would say are that the SL24 is still brand new and there may be things that have not been identified yet and the best resolution you can get out of it is 48khz. Other than that if is what will fit the bill in the cost range you can accept then get one. I would if I could sell my 16 first and get it to fit in the same case.

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No I'm not a freaking pilot!! The Air Force won't let me have a suit with a zipper...or sometimes shoestrings.

My advice and suggestions should never be considered advice or suggestions. These are mostly insane ramblings of a poor aircraft mechanic who can, strangely enough, still hear.

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nelsoncolt
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Thank you so much for that monolithent!
I'll be using an intel duo 2 core (4 GB RAM) iMAC 21.5" with an external G-Technology 500 MB USB powered HD.

This will be my second console....moving up from a TASCAM DP-008...........I know........hope the SL24.4.2 is as easy to use as everyone says it is, including Studio One!

Cheers and thank again!

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imac 21.5" 3.06 GHz intel core 2 duo
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8 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256MB RAM
500GB Serial ATA 7200 rpm
Firewire 800 (Lucent chipset)
G-Technologies USB 2.0 500GB External Storage
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Central Station Studio Control Centre
FaderPort
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Studio One Pro 2.6.0 Build 24200
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jims
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nelsoncolt wrote:Hello;

I have seen a few comments about the SL24.4.2 NOT being a good choice for using as a computer interface for recording...........is this true?


The StudoLive Does NOT have Motorized Faders. That makes it very hard to do true computer automation.
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My primary use for the SL is as a recording interface. I do some occasional live mixing, and some occasional monitor mixing, but mostly location recording work. As interfaces go, it is big. As jims just pointed out, it is NOT a control surface. If you are OK with that, it is a great recording interface -- by far the best I've had. (Gotta love those XMAX pres!) Also, if you have any need of a small-format mixer with a helluva lot of capabilities you'll be covered.
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PreSonus S1 v2.6.2.25990, Boom Recorder 8.3.2

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iMac 11.3, i7 (Quad) 2.93GHz, 8 GB RAM,
OS 10.9.3,
M-Audio FW1814, PreSonus Faderport,
PreSonus S1 Pro 2.6.2.25590
nelsoncolt
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That's what I like to hear! Happy campers! I will also be getting the FaderPort for mixing........I don't care to much about motorized faders on the SL24........I just want to produce great country music!

Cheers!
imac 21.5" 3.06 GHz intel core 2 duo
MAC OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
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NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256MB RAM
500GB Serial ATA 7200 rpm
Firewire 800 (Lucent chipset)
G-Technologies USB 2.0 500GB External Storage
FireStudio Project
Eureka Channel Strip
Central Station Studio Control Centre
FaderPort
HP4
Studio One Pro 2.6.0 Build 24200
Adam A7's & Adam SUB8
TASCAM CD-01U PRO
AKG C-214
SHURE SM-57/58
SHURE SM-81
Superlux CM-H8D
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nelsoncolt
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I just though of another question: The reason I planned on buying the SL24: old school buttons and faders to touch and control, great preamps and effetcs/e.q. Now, I am wondering if all these great effects and equing are available in Studio One Artist/Pro? Does anyone know? I realize I would still need an interface from Presonus, any reccommendations?

Sorry for all these questions, but I just want to make the right choice here.

Thanks!
imac 21.5" 3.06 GHz intel core 2 duo
MAC OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
8 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256MB RAM
500GB Serial ATA 7200 rpm
Firewire 800 (Lucent chipset)
G-Technologies USB 2.0 500GB External Storage
FireStudio Project
Eureka Channel Strip
Central Station Studio Control Centre
FaderPort
HP4
Studio One Pro 2.6.0 Build 24200
Adam A7's & Adam SUB8
TASCAM CD-01U PRO
AKG C-214
SHURE SM-57/58
SHURE SM-81
Superlux CM-H8D
Toontrack EZDrummer/Nashvile Drums
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Monolithent
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And now that I see the rest of your rig. You should be able to get all 24 channels in and out without much concern.

I think you're the first person I've seen on here trying to run the SL24 from an iMac. but based on your specs as long as you don't try to go too crazy you should have ample horsepower to run S1 with a few effects on each channel.

As far as the effects and EQ you have a dizzying array of them in S1 Artist and even more capabilities with S1 Pro and you can use them in conjunction with the built in effects on the board. And S1 pro will let you use outside VSTs and other such things as well to add even more to the possibilities. I think you'll be quite happy.

Another advantage of this mixer is that if you need more recording inputs the Drivers will allow you to chain devices up to 52 audio streams so you can add on other Presonus gear if you need to.

Also you don't have to have a Presonus interface to use Studio One. It will work with pretty much anything reasonably modern.

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Tallest guy in the Mod Squad with all his hair still on his head.

No I'm not a freaking pilot!! The Air Force won't let me have a suit with a zipper...or sometimes shoestrings.

My advice and suggestions should never be considered advice or suggestions. These are mostly insane ramblings of a poor aircraft mechanic who can, strangely enough, still hear.

StudioLive 16.4.2, AudioBox 1818VSL, AudioBox 44VSL, Faderport, Digimax FS,, M-Audio Firewire 410
--MultiBoot System--
Win Vista 64/XP Pro/7 x86/7 x64 - Mac OSX Snow Leopard/Lion
Gigabyte motherboard--SYBA TI Firewire XIO2200A--i7 2600k Quad Core--16 GB DDR III--Custom 2U Rackmount--4 TB Raid (all internal SATA II)--19" Samsung HDMI LCD on pivoting VESA 1U Mount
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Studio One v1 Artist
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There is a pretty full suite of included plug-ins in S1 Artist that covers all the basics: compression, limiting, expansion, gate, reverb, delay, etc.

With Artist you cannot use 3rd party plug-ins -- to get that capability you need the pro version.

With the SL, I record w/o any processing and add those later during mixing. With the SL, you can track dry (or wet, if you prefer) then use the built-in FX/mixer to create your final mix, or just use S1 to do all the mixing and basically ignore the SL in post.
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A & H Qu-16, AB1818VSL, Alesis IO14 / IO26,
PreSonus S1 v2.6.2.25990, Boom Recorder 8.3.2

Studio Kit:
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OS 10.9.3,
M-Audio FW1814, PreSonus Faderport,
PreSonus S1 Pro 2.6.2.25590
nelsoncolt
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Sounds like total control! I like that.

So then, just to recap, I'll be OK with the SL24, on an 21.5" iMAC 3.06 GHz intel Core 2 Duo - 4GB RAM, 500 MB HD (internal), running Studio One Artist or Pro, mixing with the FaderPort and recording to an external 500MB USB powered HD.

How does that sound?

N.
imac 21.5" 3.06 GHz intel core 2 duo
MAC OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
8 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256MB RAM
500GB Serial ATA 7200 rpm
Firewire 800 (Lucent chipset)
G-Technologies USB 2.0 500GB External Storage
FireStudio Project
Eureka Channel Strip
Central Station Studio Control Centre
FaderPort
HP4
Studio One Pro 2.6.0 Build 24200
Adam A7's & Adam SUB8
TASCAM CD-01U PRO
AKG C-214
SHURE SM-57/58
SHURE SM-81
Superlux CM-H8D
Toontrack EZDrummer/Nashvile Drums
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zemlin
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Why record to a USB disc? Data transfer to the internal disc is much more efficient.
Record to the internal disc - it you want to back it up after recording, then the external drive is good for that - IMHO.
nelsoncolt
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Record to the same drive as the OS? Hmmm......could I then back it up to the external drive, as you mentioned, for editing and mixing?
imac 21.5" 3.06 GHz intel core 2 duo
MAC OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
8 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256MB RAM
500GB Serial ATA 7200 rpm
Firewire 800 (Lucent chipset)
G-Technologies USB 2.0 500GB External Storage
FireStudio Project
Eureka Channel Strip
Central Station Studio Control Centre
FaderPort
HP4
Studio One Pro 2.6.0 Build 24200
Adam A7's & Adam SUB8
TASCAM CD-01U PRO
AKG C-214
SHURE SM-57/58
SHURE SM-81
Superlux CM-H8D
Toontrack EZDrummer/Nashvile Drums
[Email] [WWW]
zemlin
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I run Windows, not Mac, but I haven't had any issues with disc access.
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Traditionally, DAWs have discouraged writing to the startup drive. With Capture and S1, it is not really an issue, and in fact, in my observation it is actually the most CPU efficient and stable way to do it, so I'd use the USB drive for backup, too. I keep my internal drive well maintained (file structures repair/volume structures repair/de-fragmentation -- get a good software tool for doing that).

That iMac has plenty of horsepower to do everything that you need, and then some.

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Field Kit:
MacBook Pro 9.2 i5 2.5 GHz, 8GB RAM,
OS 10.8.5;
A & H Qu-16, AB1818VSL, Alesis IO14 / IO26,
PreSonus S1 v2.6.2.25990, Boom Recorder 8.3.2

Studio Kit:
iMac 11.3, i7 (Quad) 2.93GHz, 8 GB RAM,
OS 10.9.3,
M-Audio FW1814, PreSonus Faderport,
PreSonus S1 Pro 2.6.2.25590
nelsoncolt
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You guys are great! Thanks so much for your help here!

Hope you don't mind one last question:

I was thinking of getting the SL16.4.2 at first, but I'm opting for the SL24 simply because of it's more "pro" effetcs and EQ.

Now, if I am going to be using Sudio One Pro with the SL24, does Studio One Pro have the same effects/equing as the SL24? The reason is all about money and producing a pro-as-possible sound. If I can get the same audio quality using an SL16 with Studio One Pro'as equing and effects, should I, could I go the SL 16 route? I just don't want to end up duplicating a recording system......know what I mean?

A little more info; all this gear will be used in a home/project studio, with one vocal/instrument booth, and a mixing room approx. 10'x16', accoustically treated/balanced. My drummer is a BOSS DR-880, but I could accomodate a live drummer in a another room. My monitoring system is the ADAM SUB 8 and the ADAM A7's. My mics are SHURE sm57's and the AKG C-214.

Hope I'm not sounding too confusing here.....

Thanks again guys, and sorry for all these pre-sales questions.....I just want to be sure before I drop a few grand!

N.
imac 21.5" 3.06 GHz intel core 2 duo
MAC OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
8 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M 256MB RAM
500GB Serial ATA 7200 rpm
Firewire 800 (Lucent chipset)
G-Technologies USB 2.0 500GB External Storage
FireStudio Project
Eureka Channel Strip
Central Station Studio Control Centre
FaderPort
HP4
Studio One Pro 2.6.0 Build 24200
Adam A7's & Adam SUB8
TASCAM CD-01U PRO
AKG C-214
SHURE SM-57/58
SHURE SM-81
Superlux CM-H8D
Toontrack EZDrummer/Nashvile Drums
[Email] [WWW]
 
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