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Very sick of this program. 4 seconds into 1st song on cd, it inserts a crackle.
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rhetrick
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The crackle never shows up in project play, only on the burned cd. This was a cd meant for mastering. After throwing away 10 of the cds, I just went with the crackle. So basically, everyone who buys this cd will get to hear an annoying crackle 4 seconds in. Thanks StudioOne!

How it could burn an 11 track master flawlessly but always insert a crackle 4 seconds into the first song no matter what the effects/levels is a work of art.
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I have the same Problem.
But with rerendering the Masterfile of the First Song, the Problem has gone.
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Did you do a direct burn or did you create an image file on your drive first?
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Motoko wrote:Did you do a direct burn or did you create an image file on your drive first?


Just tried the image file first. That would be throwaway disk #11. Same 4 second mark none-the-less.

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Mojoerecords wrote:I have the same Problem.
But with rerendering the Masterfile of the First Song, the Problem has gone.


Help me with this. How did you re-render the masterfile of that one song and make it work?
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A quick question: are you on S1 1.5.2, latest build? With that build PreSonus fixed a problem that impacted the Digital Release for a few people; I have no idea if that issue could be related to this.
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GMGB_bass wrote:A quick question: are you on S1 1.5.2, latest build? With that build PreSonus fixed a problem that impacted the Digital Release for a few people; I have no idea if that issue could be related to this.


Yes, I have the latest build. I'm doing the cd burn which is a red book spec. I sent the cd to the replicating plant but if someone could figure this out, I could put a hold on it and send another one. I've even thought of copying an audio section to the beginning and then removing it in another wav editing tool. Only problem is, I do not have another wav editing tool.
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Until you figure out the issue why don't you burn the mix files to a CD using another application? I'm not trying to make light of the issue with S1 but why would you send the replicator a CD with a glitch on it if you can burn a CD without a glitch using another app? They're only mix files and I assume that you were burning CD's for replication before you bought S1?

I hope you get it all worked out but in the meantime I'd use whatever I'd used before I start using S1 to burn my CD's. If you don't have anything else, use this ...

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/download/trials/cdarchitect

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The problem is that I did the mastering as a Project in S1. I cannot get the mix down to audio from that program to edit in another one without getting that crackle.

Now, if you're saying, just do your mastering in another program, I don't have another one worth a crap and am not into paying a lot to get to it. I had an effects chain that I had built in S1 that I just had to tweak for each song. The pressing plant is waiting for the cd as the artwork is finished. Funny that after working on an album for 3 years it gets rushed in the end. I am keeping myself calm by knowing that, outside of that one crackle 4 seconds in, I have 11 songs that sound pretty good, to me at least. Hopefully most people will still be adjusting the volume that early into the song or think their gear caused it.

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rhetrick wrote:The problem is that I did the mastering as a Project in S1. I cannot get the mix down to audio from that program to edit in another one without getting that crackle.


So the crackle is not from CD burning, it's from the mixdown? If you render the songs from the mastering page to *.wav files you always get the crackle only on the first file when you play it back with anything like a media player? Or only when you burn it to CD as a project and play it back? I'm not clear on that.


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AudioCave wrote:
rhetrick wrote:The problem is that I did the mastering as a Project in S1. I cannot get the mix down to audio from that program to edit in another one without getting that crackle.


So the crackle is not from CD burning, it's from the mixdown? If you render the songs from the mastering page to *.wav files you always get the crackle only on the first file when you play it back with anything like a media player? Or only when you burn it to CD as a project and play it back? I'm not clear on that.




Yes. On the first song, I get the crackle no matter if I render to image, audio file, cd, whatever. This hasn't always happened but now I can't get it to stop and I'm sick of throwing away cds trying to figure out what is going wrong. My earlier mixes actually didn't have the crackle but the audio was far from optimized on those mixes so I'm not going to back to them.
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rhetrick wrote:Yes. On the first song, I get the crackle no matter if I render to image, audio file, cd, whatever. This hasn't always happened but now I can't get it to stop and I'm sick of throwing away cds trying to figure out what is going wrong. My earlier mixes actually didn't have the crackle but the audio was far from optimized on those mixes so I'm not going to back to them.


Ok, follow me on this which is designed not to solve the physical issue since I have no idea what's causing it, but to allow you to present the replicator with a glitch free CD.

1. Render all of the files to wave format. "Digital Release: Wave | 16/44"

Play mix one in media player or whatever. Does it glitch? If so go to step 2. If not, got to step 4.

2. Change the order of track 1 to track 2 and render again to a new directory.
3. Now you have a glitch free track 1 to replace the glitchy track 1 right? (only the first mix glitches?)
4. Download the CD Architect application demo and burn a disc with your glitch free master files.

Again, the short term goal is to not send a glitchy CD to replication, the other issue can be worked out later?

I'm still not clear on why - if your first mix always glitches in the actual audio file and you can hear that in the audio mix file played from disk - why you keep burning CD's? If the audio is glitched already, burning a CD isn't going to correct it... so it kinda doesn't make sense if that's the case... why you'd keep burning CD's. If the burn process is at fault, burn with something else.

Put track 1 in the track 2 position to get a glitch free track 1 and burn with CD Architect.


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sounds like a smart idea. I'll give it a shot tonight.

For the record, I was wasting cds trying to figure out if it was the effects, the levels, the burn process, the audio settings on my computer, etc... All of them yielded the same crackle.
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rhetrick wrote:sounds like a smart idea. I'll give it a shot tonight.

For the record, I was wasting cds trying to figure out if it was the effects, the levels, the burn process, the audio settings on my computer, etc... All of them yielded the same crackle.

What I think AudioCave was trying to get to and what I am still not completely clear on is if you play the mastered output wav file, does it have a glitch in song 1? I believe your answer will be yes. That does mean burning CD's cannot fix the glitch.

I had a pop that appeared in track 1 about 6 seconds in that about drove me crazy. It was NOT in the song, only in the mastered song. I could edit the song and update the file, then master out and the pop would be there. I finally got rid of it (I think) by deleting the render output files and the master output files, I may have even deleted the directories, and - POOF - the pop went away. It seemed that somehow I got a pop and that file never got over written in subsequent renderings. You may have that problem meaning you keep doing a render or master but the exact same file keeps getting in your CD.

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allenc3 wrote:
rhetrick wrote:sounds like a smart idea. I'll give it a shot tonight.

For the record, I was wasting cds trying to figure out if it was the effects, the levels, the burn process, the audio settings on my computer, etc... All of them yielded the same crackle.

What I think AudioCave was trying to get to and what I am still not completely clear on is if you play the mastered output wav file, does it have a glitch in song 1? I believe your answer will be yes. That does mean burning CD's cannot fix the glitch.

I had a pop that appeared in track 1 about 6 seconds in that about drove me crazy. It was NOT in the song, only in the mastered song. I could edit the song and update the file, then master out and the pop would be there. I finally got rid of it (I think) by deleting the render output files and the master output files, I may have even deleted the directories, and - POOF - the pop went away. It seemed that somehow I got a pop and that file never got over written in subsequent renderings. You may have that problem meaning you keep doing a render or master but the exact same file keeps getting in your CD.



very interesting. I will be home in about an hour and will immediately try this. Thanks. I'll let you know if it works as my problem is identical to the one you had.
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