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Monolithent
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Yes it is. First on and last off that way it's there for windows to detect on startup. And the firewire is completely shut down before you turn off the mixer.
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jakejam wrote:
We just had a gig at the same place a couple weeks ago, and I confined power for the SL, Mac mini, and external drive to its own supply (run through a power conditioner).

That recording was clean.

So my question... Could it be as simple as a minor power deficit at load intensive times?


Did you see the lights dim? I tested a StudioLive 24.4.2 at reduced line voltage and it worked fine down to a bit below 60 volts. I'm not able to test its response to power line transient spikes, but that would be high voltage rather than low, which can indeed occur when something loads the line and then the load comes off suddenly. I expect that PreSonus has had some testing along those lines done, though. It's usually the sort of work done by a commercial testing lab rather than a company's engineering department.

No, I think you just had some bad luck. But without measurements of the power at your gig, we really don't know.
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Most of these problem reports are PSU related...Didn't Presonus already fixed this issue?
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MR4Y wrote:Most of these problem reports are PSU related...Didn't Presonus already fixed this issue?

Yes, but there are bound to be some out there were shipped early on and that haven't yet been fixed. But the question is, what to do? What to do?

Do you:

  • Assume that because of one blown recording (hopefully most of it was recovered) your mixer is defective, ship it back to PreSonus, hope they can duplicate the problem, and fix it?

  • Take a chance that it won't happen again?

  • Never go out without wearing a belt and suspenders (Line voltage regulator/surge suppressor and a UPS)?

  • Or do you just tell the client "Hey, I'm not charging you anything extra for the recording. We win some and we lose some."


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    MikeRivers wrote:
    MR4Y wrote:Most of these problem reports are PSU related...Didn't Presonus already fixed this issue?

    Yes, but there are bound to be some out there were shipped early on and that haven't yet been fixed. But the question is, what to do? What to do?

    Do you:

  • Assume that because of one blown recording (hopefully most of it was recovered) your mixer is defective, ship it back to PreSonus, hope they can duplicate the problem, and fix it?

  • Take a chance that it won't happen again?

  • Never go out without wearing a belt and suspenders (Line voltage regulator/surge suppressor and a UPS)?

  • Or do you just tell the client "Hey, I'm not charging you anything extra for the recording. We win some and we lose some."




  • It has to be analised on a case-by-case basis. I'm really a fan of Presonus, but It's really hard to walk on eggs the entire time. Some problems aren't related to the PSU at all as well.
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    It's a hugely complex issue that the digital mixers have simplified greatly, to assume that the process has been perfected... at the price point we are working in, is just silly. They used to have to bring a whole truck full of hugely expensive equipment, more people, more cables and the woes that they bring...

    I can live with a little effort and expense on my part in order to be ABLE to do these things... because I CAN'T afford an Avid SC48 and a protools rig. This was groundbreaking technology and a company that has CARED enough to listen to the people who buy the equipment and actually ACT on the majority requests(that within the scope of the design).

    Otherwise I'm back to a cable farmer and using equipment that I have to make WAY too many compromises on.

    I liken it to the early backlash at dbx when they put out the DRPA...pro audio scoffed at it, and said it was this and that, but missed the point, if you want an XTA's quality and feature list... buck up and PAY for it... and those that fell prey to the "hook it up, turn it on and it's like MAGIC! It's all done for you! Please... with technology comes responsibility.

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    i have 2 x SL 16:4:2s & also a SL 24 and i will never run them without a UPS.
    i had nothing but trouble originally with all of them going back for dead DSP boards but don`t seem to have a problem once they received good power.
    i find a UPS better as the power never goes out on them as opposed to a conditioner that will still loose power if it drops out. the UPS i use has protection against most power problems also. or you could use both.
    still i am not 100% confident with their reliability yet. they have put me in some stressful and embarrassing situations.
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    If I was doing road gigs, or renting out units HELL YA they would be on UPS power strips...As I said, my power at the casino is a new service, 200 amp with a 408 3 phase trunk right next to it.
    NOTE: If your having an issue, open a tech support ticket and bring the number here if you want help!
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    http://forums.presonus.com/posts/list/11348.page

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