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Am I the only one that hates the "COMEDY" feel of Presonus' website?
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Great, now we have anger and attitudes in an already silly thread. See, when Studio One actually has less problems, this kinda stuff happens.

So there. I gave you all the rolly eyes

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themuzic wrote: So what if they use flash. Big effing deal.

If I was sitting in trendy downdown cafe and I wanted to show someone the cool Presonus hardware on their website on my iPad it would be a big deal cos I couldn't. The person would say, hmm this company looks like an outfit not keeping up with technology. You mean they still use Flash? Baaahaaaa

Which is of course totally untrue. S1 is an innovator in technolgy e.g. ARA and Soundcoud integration etc....(But then again their own forum does not allow the standard posting of the Soundcloud Widgets)

And I hear you on Presonus not being in control, but perhaps its simply a matter of them not accepting such an absurd situation any longer and carpe diem?

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themuzic wrote: So what if they use flash. Big effing deal.

If I was sitting in trendy downdown cafe and I wanted to show someone the cool Presonus hardware on their website on my iPad it would be a big deal cos I couldn't. The person would say, hmm this company looks like an outfit not keeping up with technology. You mean they still use Flash? Baaahaaaa

Which is of course totally untrue. S1 is an innovator in technolgy e.g. ARA and Soundcoud integration etc....(But then again their own forum does not allow the standard posting of the Soundcloud Widgets)

And I hear you on Presonus not being in control, but perhaps its simply a matter of them not accepting such an absurd situation any longer and carpe diem?

Just my 2cents...


Sorry. Don't buy that. The parts of the site where all the hardware is, all the technical info, videos and reviews is what's important. If you can't get to those areas on an iPad, from a cafe, that's not Presonus' issue.

And on top of that, if a web site, not the tech specs, determine weather or not the person buys, I would question them as what their real goal for music is. Like those that say "It's gotta be Protools if your serious about your music". That's a direct quote (by the way) from the Avid rep at the Protools booth last winter. I looked at him and said "Really?" and walked away.

At what flipping point did we lose what making music is all about? It's like saying a band in a small coffee house isn't worth listening to because they're, well, playing in a coffee house.

This whole discussion is just over the top now. Sorry Bo, I just don't buy it.

So, before I lose any more friends here, I'm out of this discussion.

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themuzic wrote:So what if they use flash. Big effing deal.

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If you can't get to those areas on an iPad, from a cafe, that's not Presonus' issue.


A lot of people on the planet use iOS devices like the iPad and the iPhone. Which means plenty of potential PreSonus customers out there can't fully access www.presonus.com.

In what way is that NOT a PreSonus issue?




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I'm actually surprised that Studio One runs on a Mac and yet they use flash on their main website. You'd think that would put a bit of a damper on sales.

I like the white font on black background here. Being a developer myself, working on a white background with black text is a bit hard on the eyes all day, so this site I really appreciate. But the banner graphic does have to go.

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I agree with the OP to some degree, although I think this is a very conscious decision from PreSonus. People are different, and the guys in US seems to be more "whhee-haaah - let's party!" than the guys in Germany who seems more like "Why did you use mov di,0 instead of xor di,di?"

Now, speaking of cosmetics and symbolism... Take for example the .gif image at the top of this forum. It has been there for ages now. Why not let all the subforums have their own dedicated top images? In this Studio One forum, I'd rather see an array of Studio One related images being rotated -- that would probably also add to the overall feeling of this community being even more dynamic and multidimensional.

Frankly, to me the current community image at the top seems to communicate "despair" -- like:

- Rick holding up his hand and looking like "why doesn't this shit work as expected??"
- The guy with a white cap holding his cell phone, trying to call for help
- The guy with the coffee cup getting real close to the flat screens, trying hard to see the microscopic text through his glasses (a setup that really seems alien to me)
- The guys in front of the mics, well... *cough*
- The girl at the right, seems to be biting her nails or something...

I would agree, however, that the dedicated Studio One site looks great and very professional. Lovely design there.

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For cryin' out loud!!! Have we run out of things to complain about. This thread is just plain pathetic.
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bdhender wrote: For cryin' out loud!!! Have we run out of things to complain about. This thread is just plain pathetic.


Well, obviously you haven't run out of things to complain about...

Pointing out simple facts such as that people on iOS devices can't surf to www.presonus.com and access 100% of the content because the site design is lagging behind today's web standards... I guess that's called "complaining" for some people. In my book, however, it's usually called "constructive criticism".

The same goes for the OP's post. It's a healthy kind of user based opinion that fits perfectly well in a balanced discussion forum.

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cryophonik wrote:
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cryophonik wrote:Yup, I agree with the OP. I also think that the banner on this forum is annoying and distracting, and I wish they would do away with all the Flash content on the Presonus website. No, none of these minor annoyances have any bearing on my buying decisions, but they are annoying IMO nevertheless.


Maybe the web designers could create individual wallpapers and graphic themes for users to install for showing off to their clients, thereby pleasing everyone. Choose your own colors and graphics for the website, and leave the software design to Presonus. You can please some of the people some of the time on some websites, and all the people all the time with individual graphics options.


Hmmmm....so you took what I wrote, quoted it, including the part about it only being a "minor annoyance", then made a completely ludicrous assumption that I neither stated nor implied, just so you could use the little "rollyeyes" emoticon? OK, whatever. I still don't like the Flash for the same reasons that a lot of people don't like Flash banners and I think the zany banner at the top of the forum looks stupid. I actually like the colors. Get over it.


Everyone has a right to their own opinion, of course, you included. And there are some things here that I think are less than the best. But, as long as the software and service are good, and the website navigable and intelligible, I can deal with it. There are some websites that are not so functional- nevertheless functionality is more important than beauty, for me. For those that need beauty, they may benefit from installing their own wallpapers and graphics, perhaps. Some sites offer this, like my Gmail. Have a wonderful day.
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I agree that the site should probably get rid of the Flash functions. With the huge, and growing, number of folks that use iOS devices (and the clear intent for those never to use Flash) the site should be accessible from those units also. Additionally the forum should probably have a mobile friendly version (hell, make a Presonus forum app, I know I'd use it ).

Flash is a fairly old technology which ultimately slows the site down. HTML5 is indeed the new standard.

However, I like the aesthetics of the site design. The color pallet and setup isn't bad at all. A lot of us Studio One users sometimes forget that Presonus has a LOT of other information to display from their main page on the hardware side of things also. Specifically I like the fact that the main page has a banner section which can and is often used for newsworthy things and that all parts of the site can be accessed from the horizontal menu. I just don't think it should be a Flash banner or menu. We're beyond that now.

I also don't want to see Presonus stop being humorous with their advertisements and other things. I feel like they have a good mix of informative information delivery methods and more lighthearted approaches. I enjoy that the team has a sense of humor and that they want the users to feel like they're a part of it. De-humanizing the developers is the wrong thing to do. I believe it's one of the things a lot of us have discovered makes the team much more approachable. Developing that rapport between the users, potential users and the design/development team is one thing that Presonus does well, and their sense of humor is an important element of that relationship.

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I agree that the Flash needs to be replaced by an HTML (5) site that everyone can read on whatever device they have.

I would say that the humor aspect of some of the images gives Presonus a slightly more individual 'brand' feel to the sterile sites of say Steinberg, Avid or Apple. I don't mind that at all personally, after all isn't making music meant to be fun? Aren't musicians and producers meant to be 'slightly quirky individuals'?

Then again, I can see why this might annoy some folk... but surely only a very minor annoyance?

PS: I'm also horrified that there is a person smoking being depicted within these images... there should be at least two!


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*never mind*

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Humor is great !! Next time some asks if you have Pro Tools ?? Ice Breaker Answer : Yes, but we use ( hostname), and that we can export to stems if you need to import it into Pro Tools later , but its likely you wont have to . Done problem solved . Pro Tools is kinda generic term for not using tape or using computer for audio instead, its sad really .
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brent mosher wrote:

I happen to live in a very isolated community. The internet is the only way I have to find out about most things. I do not have access to ANY recording programs to examine their capabilities, nor even people to talk with in person about their experiences with them. Glad you found amusement in the only research method available to me. What would you suggest I should have done in my situation?


Move?

Just kidding Sorry if my response upset you but I did find it amusing. I have a strange sense of humor.

And since you asked, I would try some of the following..

Product trials/demos
Groove 3 product training videos
Youtube demos
Music related SIG boards
DAW forums


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taoyoyo wrote:PS: I'm also horrified that there is a person smoking being depicted within these images... there should be at least two!


LOL (I'm a recovering smoker of 50 a day)

And I agree that humour on the website is not necessarily a bad thing.

Hope you guys chill out a bit. It's nothing more than a rational & constructive discussion, related to a company that makes a fine DAW and hardware...

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