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sunmachine wrote:
tpittman wrote:
There is no notepad that I see. I thought someone had said there is a Vst notepad. Anyone used this or have it? If so, what is the name?

Try this: http://www.meldaproduction.com/freevstplugins/mnotepad.php


I wish there was a way to only install MNotepad. When I download this and try to install, it wants to install a whole suite of free plugins. On the installer, is there a way to choose just to install MNotepad?
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LMike wrote:
Musiclabnz wrote:Like I say, I am fully prepared to move on from GB. However, like for like, GB offers significantly more than S1 Artist does with easier use and integration of standard products both hardware and software. Just a fact.


Sounds like a plan, sticking with GB, for you.

I was only suggesting that I'm not sure how your particular context (what you currently need in a host and how Artist doesn't fit that for you, which isn't uncommon) leads to you also conclude that because of that it's just totally wrong for the entire market and also fails against the competition in all cases.

That's a bit of a leap with no factual support (sales data from it or the competition) and suggesting that your context is the whole market... when of course, some people don't care about any of those things you listed.

Best regards man. That's all I meant. No harm, no foul.


My comments were in the light of being a GarageBand user, as mentioned earlier. I registered my Artist License because Presonus made an offer on Facebook saying that they offered GarageBand owners/users a competitive crossgrade price to switch. They also take pride in claiming how easy S1 is supposedly to use. In essence they made an advertising pitch to me as a GB user to consider their software as a replacement for GB. I was intrigued. As a consumer, it is up to me to do the research to figure out if what they are saying is true. Upon investigation, comparing like for like as much as possible, replacing GB which is a free product, with another free product only makes sense if the feature set and ease of use is better. If you are into marketing then you will know that winning over users of other products is about features or price. I made my statement about getting things wrong based on Presonus' offer to the GB users market. Based on features and price, the only comparable offer they have for GB users is their Artist product. When looked at in the light of GB, then yes, they have it wrong. Period.

Incidentally, with Logic's recent price drop, it makes S1 pro less interesting from the outside.
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See my sig. Pardon me. You're right, period.
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LMike wrote:See my sig. Pardon me. You're right, period.


You give up to easy

Thanks for listening anyway. This forum has not been the best for help regarding sorting out S1 issues.
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Musiclabnz wrote:
LMike wrote:See my sig. Pardon me. You're right, period.


This forum has not been the best for help regarding sorting out S1 issues.


Speak for yourself buddy lol. From my experience so far it seems that if there's a serious problem and the developers are aware of it...they try to tackle it.


In regards to "bloatware". I personally feel there's a big difference between features and bloat. Feature ass benefit... bloat is not needed. I think there may be a few "features" that could be added that other DAWs offer... but i love that Presonus has left out all of the bloat so far and seems like they will continue to. It seems like they only add things that make sense with the workflow. That's how it should be.
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This is what I'm afraid of honestly. Look what happend to Ableton. They started adding a bunch of stuff and what the last two years they were fixing bugs. If Studio One becomes bloated users will just switch I think and their will probably be backlash. Wait till Native Instruments drop a DAW in the future. I think they will do it in the future. I'm telling you fellas IMO, if they do a DAW it's over. They've done the traktor s4, maschine, etc. Its over for others if they do this I think.
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CPhoenix wrote:
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This forum has not been the best for help regarding sorting out S1 issues.


Speak for yourself buddy ....


I was.
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jaaron410 wrote:This is what I'm afraid of honestly. Look what happend to Ableton. They started adding a bunch of stuff and what the last two years they were fixing bugs. If Studio One becomes bloated users will just switch I think and their will probably be backlash. Wait till Native Instruments drop a DAW in the future. I think they will do it in the future. I'm telling you fellas IMO, if they do a DAW it's over. They've done the traktor s4, maschine, etc. Its over for others if they do this I think.


agreed. as much as i love S1, i think if NI gets in the race then theyve got it (for me) theyre apporach to things is awesome. i think NI's forward-thinking aesthetic is the only thing that can come anywhere near S1 right now (at least until we see whats going on with Logic X)
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Musiclabnz wrote:
LMike wrote:See my sig. Pardon me. You're right, period.


This forum has not been the best for help regarding sorting out S1 issues.


Well now you never talked to me, did ya?

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There's a fine line indeed between features and being bloated. For my needs, S1 is almost perfect right now, but I can understand others (who dig deeper) would benefit from added features. Maybe there should be 3 versions in the future, S1 Artist, S1 Pro and S1 Bloated
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wieger wrote:There's a fine line indeed between features and being bloated. For my needs, S1 is almost perfect right now, but I can understand others (who dig deeper) would benefit from added features. Maybe there should be 3 versions in the future, S1 Artist, S1 Pro and S1 Bloated

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jaaron410 wrote:
Wait till Native Instruments drop a DAW in the future. I think they will do it in the future. I'm telling you fellas IMO, if they do a DAW it's over. They've done the traktor s4, maschine, etc. Its over for others if they do this I think.


If it has the support they showed for Kore and the GUI of Kontakt, I think we'll be safe.

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dgkenney wrote:
If it has the support they showed for Kore and the GUI of Kontakt, I think we'll be safe.

Dan


The interesting thing about S1 is how serious it's become in two years. Many people were of the opinion of "Well, the market is already really crowded and I doubt it'll ever really compete with the big boys." It seems to be the case that they're in it for the long haul.

Keep an eye on the Open Labs Music OS host over the next couple of years and see if that's also the case there. If it will continue to develop into something many people may actually want, or just kinda die on the vine.

So unless NI is dead serious about it - for the longer term - they probably shouldn't even go there.

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Does anyone have an example of DAW "bloat"? I see similar discussions on other DAW forums, but it seems that quite often "bloat" is simply a feature that someone does not need. For example, is MFX bloat or a good feature? How about extending score to picture features? I'm always trying to better understand where others feel that line falls...
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In my opinion.....

I truly think it's only "Bloat" when the code isn't scaled or tested correctly to accommodate all the features. In my opinion, Sonar and Cubase kinda fit in the "Bloat" boat.

Not because of useless features, just too many features their code base can't handle CORRECTLY, because they just keep throwing shit into it without thinking.

I was part of that whole community when Cubase 4 replaced Cubase SX3. SX3, while it sucked at first, ended up being the best and most stable Cubase release ever. Cubase 4 was a joke and many of us were left stranded for months when we installed 4 and nothing worked except new projects. That's when I started testing other DAWs and stumbled on Studio one.

As many of the former Sonar users have stated, Roland just threw features (cool features by the way) into Sonar X1 without even going through the code to make it all work correctly together.

So yeah, for some, "Bloat" means features they'll never use. To many of us, it means features that will never work, unless the code itself is addressed.

Now to me, that's where Studio One shines above all of them. While it may be an adolescent DAW, it has achieved more in 2 short years than some of the others have in 10 years, as far as stability, support and user backing.

Pro Tools is a different story, also in my opinion. While I think at some point Studio One may knock a serious knock at its door, Protools is just too dug in to be knocked out. It's more than just a DAW, it's a way of life for some and the only option. No one can take it away from the user base at this point.

Although, I feel Studio One could, maybe someday, occupy many professional studios, along side Pro Tools even more so than Cubase or Sonar....... Remember, I said maybe someday.

Either way. There is no Perfect DAW. There is a perfect DAW for me, there is a perfect DAW for Motoko and so on. But much like opinions and assholes, everyone in the recording wording world has one..... A DAW, that is

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