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My request is to not get into an arms race and try to throw everything but the kitchen sink into Studio One and ruin it.

I'd rather see a long, slow ascent towards something that keeps the spirit intact along the way. Easy, fun, powerful.

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AudioCave wrote:My request is to not get into an arms race and try to throw everything but the kitchen sink into Studio One and ruin it.

I'd rather see a long, slow ascent towards something that keeps the spirit intact along the way. Easy, fun, powerful.



I am in complete agreement with this!
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Amen, brothers! Stability first, features as they can be implemented without compromising the platform.

There just a few things (and I think they are ones that they can cleverly and fairly easily implement) that I think would help serious pro users a good deal, including a few that I believe should have probably been in the initial release. I won't get into my personal wish-list here, and would encourage others to go to the feature request page to make such suggestions.

I do think the S1 Pro price is up there at a point where people do expect a pretty well developed and full-featured program. PT, DP, and L9 are all cheaper -- and at the same offer considerably more. Not that I'm saying that more is better, mind you. Better is better, and I firmly believe this is an unwritten credo at Presonus. I'm not quite sure why they didn't offer it at a lower price point initially (to get people buzzing about it) and then charge a little more for updates as they add more features.

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Wise words here!

I never ever want to see those bloated menus in Studio One that I have in Logic...

Keep it simple and enjoy the power of less! All meat, no fat
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Careful consideration are indeed very welcome. Amen to these statements.

I do feel some users tend to compare on plugin and feature count / numbers, rather then actually thinking about the usage of them in real life.
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Ooohh yes!!! Please, stability first, first, first!
I start with Cubase switch to Logic, jump to Sonar and whats next? All of them have the same Problem, new update new problems. More, more, more but problems, problems, problems. Basic functions they work before fine are broken then and after an update is an other update need. I dont want to update again and again and to fix the problems of the programmer.
I want to make music!!! Easy and quick.
The first time I test the S1 I was keen. Not to mutch functions bad everythink you need is inside. And it works realy fine. Once again, please make S1 to the most solid programm on the market. Thats better then each wich for the future. Ok, one small wich I have please let the S1 support the mackie C4 Pro. Thats it.

Thanks to PreSonus and the german programmers. Please do your best for your customers and all of your future customers.
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Well to be honest, we had some small bugs in 1.5.1, many of them closed in 1.5.2... (see the release note of 1.5.2 to get an impression of the bugs in 1.5.1) but it shows that a good testing team is needed.
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MarkyGoldstein wrote:but it shows that a good testing team is needed.


You should apply.
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bedstrom wrote:
AudioCave wrote:My request is to not get into an arms race and try to throw everything but the kitchen sink into Studio One and ruin it.

I'd rather see a long, slow ascent towards something that keeps the spirit intact along the way. Easy, fun, powerful.



I am in complete agreement with this!


Same here. Keep it easy, keep the flow, keep it steady. So good so far.
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AudioCave wrote:My request is to not get into an arms race and try to throw everything but the kitchen sink into Studio One and ruin it.

I'd rather see a long, slow ascent towards something that keeps the spirit intact along the way. Easy, fun, powerful.



thats pretty much PreSonus' philosophy (in theory and practice), only time will tell if they sell out or not. the only thing that could be interpreted as "selling out" at this point was the inclusion of video, which was added because they realized if they wanted to truly compete with the big DAWs, they needed video support. other than that, i dont see PreSonus bending to towards the stagnant DAW scene - after all, their entire sales pitch is about how different they are. PreSonus, please keep S1 LEAN AND MEAN!

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AudioCave wrote:My request is to not get into an arms race and try to throw everything but the kitchen sink into Studio One and ruin it.

I'd rather see a long, slow ascent towards something that keeps the spirit intact along the way. Easy, fun, powerful.



I'd rather see it become user defined, with all the features you could ever want available if and when you need them. That accomplishes both goals: keep it user friendly and add great dexterity to the muscle. What good is muscle without control?
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Jax wrote:
AudioCave wrote:My request is to not get into an arms race and try to throw everything but the kitchen sink into Studio One and ruin it.

I'd rather see a long, slow ascent towards something that keeps the spirit intact along the way. Easy, fun, powerful.



I'd rather see it become user defined, with all the features you could ever want available if and when you need them. That accomplishes both goals: keep it user friendly and add great dexterity to the muscle. What good is muscle without control?


Greetings Jax! This forum is ALL ABOUT user defined. The Devs are here constantly monitoring what we as as users are looking for. As far as "all the features you could ever want", dude, that is a feature request from hell! Audiocave is spot on with "I'd rather see a long, slow ascent towards something that keeps the spirit intact along the way. Easy, fun, powerful."

S1 is only on V.XX, and getting better every day.

Stay tuned, Kind Regards

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Just to reiterate the intent of the OP...

I was always one of those guys who had to have every feature, every update, every slick new fangled feature. It wasn't until I actually started tracking and mixing in Studio One that it became clear to me that for me (YMMV) the need for those things are easily definable in a few minutes of conversation with a new client, and already well known with existing clients. On most of my sessions I only need audio tracks, groups, and decent plugs.

  • As it stands now I tend to go with Studio One first above Cubase for straight audio tracking and mixing. The few times I've had to tune a vocal phrase a few cents one way or another... no big deal. The ease of use and sheer invisibility of the interface makes it all worthwhile.

  • Having said that, for complex midi productions - especially those using my midi hardware modules - it's just not ready yet. I'd generally be shooting myself in the foot not to use Cubase for those things. Even then I always seriously consider mixing in Studio One since the XML exports are pretty flawless.


  • Anyway, very busy commercial studio facilities aside it occurs to me (again YMMV but I see evidence of it locally here) that most people don't need half of that stuff. Sometimes less really is more.
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