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Version 1.9 added side-chain flow and Improved Rewire flow and MIDI indicators. (PDF also updated)
To make the S1 signal flow easier to read, I created a completely new one. This one is completely left to right signal flow with the exception of re-flow loops like side-chains, Rewire or recording channels outputs, In addition to being left to right it includes event controls, automation points, and gain stages and side-chain flows. As always if any one can spot an error I will be glad to update it.



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WOW! Looking at this and your tutorial videos, I gotta say your presentation skills are impeccable.

Thanks so much for this. I'm gonna spend some time staring at it.
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Can you do me a big favor and scoot the channel pan up just a bit a connect the post fader send between the channel pan and the channel fader? I'm hoping that will fix the biggest problem I have with S1.

It has always driven me crazy that S1's post send pans are post channel pan. If you have have the channel panned hard right, you have no signal to pan left on a post send. This makes it really cumbersome to maintain relative levels with cross pans because they must be done pre-fader. Every time you adjust the channel fader, you must also make a seperate adjustment for send levels.

I think in this regards S1 is different that every other DAW I've worked with. I've never worked on a "real" mixing console, but I suspect they're not wired this way either.


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ADM3 wrote:Can you do me a big favor and scoot the channel pan up just a bit a connect the post fader send between the channel pan and the channel fader? I'm hoping that will fix the biggest problem I have with S1.


Checking something now... Channel Pan seems to be post (channels meter), which is strange as you cant use to visually balance.
Will update...


Updated to V1.1 with following changes:
1) Added Zero Latency Cue comment.


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Hi Jpetit, thanks for your efforts with this, really good work.
Something has got me confused though, and it may well be my understanding.
I was under the assumption that the signal flowed downwards, so that once it passed through the Audio Input Meter it was then travelling down through the channel itself, so that it first passes through the Inserts, then the Sends, then the Pan, then the Mute, Solo until it arrives at the last part of the journey, the channel fader before being taken through either a bus or going to the master fader.
My understanding was that the channel fader was only to be used to set the track volume relative to the other tracks in the song.
Looking at your document it is the reverse of what I described, so that the signal hits the channel fader first, and then goes up through, Solo,Mute, Pan and then Sends and Inserts
One of us has this wrong, and i'll wager that its me
By the way, i'd love to set this as my Desktop background, would you be able to save this in a format other than PDF so that i'm able to do this?
Thanks, great work
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The terms upward or downward are just how it may appear graphically. The important part is the order.

BTW: you are correct the Inserts are before the channels fader. (See update 1.2)

How the software actually pipes something to or through something is dependent on the code in their mixing engine. For example Meters are a graphical output for your eyes and do not necessarily need to pass the signal through them. They can be as indicated just a device that receive the input and displays the data. Since meters are not processing the data for the next step they are not required to be in series with the flow.

Order is detected by having a way to observe the signal on either side of function. There are certain things that are very hard to determine order of as there may not be a way to measure it. So the location of a function such as mute can only be estimated by the signal somewhere else. The same (graphical) mute button may shut down the signal in many places at once, or in different places depending on wither you are recording input or playing back a track. In Reaper for example the mute actually cuts the signal in eight different places in the flow.

This diagram may not be 100% accurate in terms of the actually mixer code I/O, but is a results of me following a signal with the observable measure points. (I used existing meters and insert plugins like the Mixtool and Level Meter for detection.) Do not assume by the way it looks on your GUI, but I encourage you to measure and observe for yourself. I will be very glad to update the flows that someone can prove otherwise. ADM3 for example immediately called attention to the order of the panning vs. post sends.

It was a good learning process. For example Sends can be pre or post the channel fader as shown but that was not real obvious to me at first.
“Tracks” vs. “Channels” and how Presonus uses them was also not obvious at first, but you can see from the diagram that tracks are something that are used to record external input ( Audio or MIDI) into file our your hard disk, and then play them back in the order that you have sequenced them. Channels are the other hand are the real guts of the mixing engine and handle all the flow variations.

Give me your screen resolution and I can make a .png or jpeg for you, in a few day once people are OK with “The Order” of things.

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Update the picture /PDF to 1.2
Changes:
1) Better detected Mute positions: added one on Channel output meter, move the post mute to before post send, added another on post Inserts but pre (pre send/cues).
2) Changed mute position on output channels ( Cues and Outputs such as Main) to be pre (post insert's)

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Ha!

I just finished explaining this exact topic on my Livestream. Fantastic diagram jpettit! I find it extremely important to understand this signal flow, and honestly when working with others it's one of the least understood concepts.

Great work!
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Hi Jpetit my screen res is 1920 x 1200, thanks
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CubaseUser wrote:Hi Jpetit my screen res is 1920 x 1200, thanks


OK, I am trying to get some feedback from an S1 developer on accuracy before I adjust it to fit screen ratios and sizes.
Hope to have something this week.

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I have partial confirmation from development, however others will look at it.

It is now at rev 1.3 Changes:
1) The picture is now 16x9 ration to be used as a wall paper ( no down available yet)
2) Fixed the bus channel post and pre sends. They were swapped
3) Added pan configuration for buses and FX bus
4) Improved labeling

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V1.4
Change:
1) Improved input monitoring flow
2) Improved logical mute points on channel monitoring.
3) Added Click signal flow to output buses

Uploaded a new V1.4 16x9 PDF file

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jpettit wrote:V1.4
Change:
1) Improved input monitoring flow
2) Improved logical mute points on channel monitoring.
3) Added Click signal flow to output buses

Uploaded a new V1.4 16x9 PDF file


<Darth Vader voice> "Impressive"

BUT, could you explain something for me? Why are there "Inserts" both right after the "In Setup" (right after external audio in") and again in the large blue rectangle underneath the Channel Fader?

Assuming this is accurate, how do the dual Inserts affect recording?

Thanks,

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Very nice. Hard to print at 16:9 but I could use a plotter...lol
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SMcNamara wrote:
jpettit wrote:V1.4
Change:
1) Improved input monitoring flow
2) Improved logical mute points on channel monitoring.
3) Added Click signal flow to output buses

Uploaded a new V1.4 16x9 PDF file


<Darth Vader voice> "Impressive"

BUT, could you explain something for me? Why are there "Inserts" both right after the "In Setup" (right after external audio in") and again in the large blue rectangle underneath the Channel Fader?

Assuming this is accurate, how do the dual Inserts affect recording?

Thanks,

Steve


The first set of inserts are Input inserts are are actually applied to the recording.
The other inserts for a channels are applied to the recorded material.


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