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kevinr6969
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I am having some serious recording issues here lately. While out recording a band a few weeks ago I ran studio one artist to get the initial tracks. During play back I Noticed that the tracks started out fine and then they started to get a crackle and fuzzy buzzy over the tracks. So basically my recording was ruined after about 20 minutes of recording. When recording the second set I had the same issue only it was 45 min into the set along with the last set.

So I then took it out to another show and tried to record and the issue I had on this run was with the recording stopping after a couple minuntes and I got nothing.

third try last night with recording a rehearsal. Set everything up the same and had the crackle fuzzy buzzy after a min of playback. So I am now officially stumped. I have read in the forum something about wi-fi interference and am wondering if that is a big issue. I am running a router for my iPad and iPhones

So what is the deal?

One note all my software is updated and I didn't have any issues before the update.
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Do you have plenty of room on your hard drive?

Have you run the latency checker?

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My hard drive is clean and free of clutter. I actually export all my files and mix on my desktop because it is more reliable these days. With that being done there is nothing on my hardrive except S1 and the UC.

IT's just funny how it is because the recording will be super clean and then it will start crackle just a bit that you notice, and then it will start to really get dirty. I did notice that if you stop the recording and start it back then it is clean again but starts to crackle etc again.

I have never had an issue with latency in the past. How would I go about running that test? I have used ASIO4All in the past on an older system and it worked out really well. I have it on my laptop know but it doesn't seem to really have any effect on my recordings.

The thing is that I never had this issue until I downloaded the new firmware updates on my boards and this computer. My recording were awesome and very stable. I did a lot of testing before I went out and started to record clients and didn't have any issues in my recordings. Of coarse when I go out on my first client the issues start.

I am just wondering if there a issue with the router that I am running causing interference with the recording process?


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How is your recording level?

If your recording levels are too high, you will have undesirable artifacts.
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My levels are good. I keep from clipping and if I see any clipping i re-adjust as soon as I notice.
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Can you drop one of the effected recordings into a response so we can have a listen? Might help the troubleshooting.

Since you're on Win 7 download and LatencyMon and drop us a copy of the report. In this case we are dealing with a different type of latency than audio latency. Gadget is thinking there may be a driver competing for the attention of your processor in the computer. If there is one then it's not allowing your FireWire stream to reach the processor in a timely manner and that may be causing your noise.
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That's a good point. I will try to get up some sort of sample this evening. This didn't start happening until i updated to the new driver. It's like when you have S1 and the UC going at the same time they start to battle a bit.
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kevinr6969 wrote:I am having some serious recording issues here lately. While out recording a band a few weeks ago I ran studio one artist to get the initial tracks. During play back I Noticed that the tracks started out fine and then they started to get a crackle and fuzzy buzzy over the tracks. So basically my recording was ruined after about 20 minutes of recording. When recording the second set I had the same issue only it was 45 min into the set along with the last set.

So I then took it out to another show and tried to record and the issue I had on this run was with the recording stopping after a couple minuntes and I got nothing.

third try last night with recording a rehearsal. Set everything up the same and had the crackle fuzzy buzzy after a min of playback. So I am now officially stumped. I have read in the forum something about wi-fi interference and am wondering if that is a big issue. I am running a router for my iPad and iPhones

So what is the deal?

One note all my software is updated and I didn't have any issues before the update.


I am going to try a different angle here since the others already covered it.

I get this too with S1 as long as I am using the mixer with it for playback. With Capture -- I don't. If I disconnect the mixer and then switch to Windows Audio Device -- the files play back just fine in S1.

So to recap: I ONLY get this when the mixer is hooked to the PC with S1 running -- otherwise I don't have any issues at all.

Can you try a few different setups like this to see if you have any improvements? Also -- IF you get to where you are running maximum plugins (especially Reverb) and your system performance is hitting close to 95 -100% -- you will get issues like crackling and so forth.

You can check this in the S1 "VIEW" tab and select "Monitor Performance" -- If I remember correctly.
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I actually exported the stems and imported them to my big system that is hooked to my firestudio mobile and they were fuzzy buzzy as well. the fuzzy buzzy is on the track permanatly. I am not using any plugins at all from studio one and my CPU doesn't go over 9% during playback. there is some sort of interferance somewhere.

I am going to reconfig my laptop to see what that does. Might go back to using Capture again as long as it will stay lit.
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kevinr6969 wrote:I actually exported the stems and imported them to my big system that is hooked to my firestudio mobile and they were fuzzy buzzy as well. the fuzzy buzzy is on the track permanatly. I am not using any plugins at all from studio one and my CPU doesn't go over 9% during playback. there is some sort of interferance somewhere.

I am going to reconfig my laptop to see what that does. Might go back to using Capture again as long as it will stay lit.


Gotcha -- I hear buzz a lot in other peoples systems but I find they don't plug the bass amp or a sampler -- that has a DI Box on it -- into the same circuit as the FOH. They got it plugged in somewhere else causing the issue.

Not saying you are doing this BUT do you have instruments with DI Boxes on the SAME circuit as FOH or are they just going into any outlet close by?

The sound I get isn't a buzz (on the recording) -- it is a very obvious crackling sound cause by hardware or software glitch.

Can you SOLO thru the recorded channels and pin point a single instrument OR is it on every soloed channel?

IF it is across the board -- then I think it is a hardware or software issue from the new upgrade. I am sure they are working on it.
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I have had only 1 issue with recording and that was last NYE. I was in Savannah, Ga. downtown to record a show and everything "looked" fine as I was tracking. I was using S1 to track through a Win7 x64 machine using ipad to mix using a 2.4ghz router. Get home, load it up, and although the tracks looked fine I kinda had what your talking about...fuzzy buzzy and a kind of repeat for lack of a better description. It would play a bar or two then repeat a couple of seconds.....weird... I tried everything to save the recording with no luck.... Had folks here listen and such and came to the conclusion that in fact it was my router!! Savannah is a RF nightmare downtown... Went back to the same room a month later with a Linksys E2500..A way to long sound/recording check and no problems what so ever.... I did notice with the 2.4 ghz router that I had many dropouts that night but it hooked right back up and I thought nothing of it as it was the first time I had any drop outs.. Would suggest recording without router and see if that helps.... a dual band router was the fix for me...knock on wood!!!
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donhill3rd wrote:I have had only 1 issue with recording and that was last NYE. I was in Savannah, Ga. downtown to record a show and everything "looked" fine as I was tracking. I was using S1 to track through a Win7 x64 machine using ipad to mix using a 2.4ghz router. Get home, load it up, and although the tracks looked fine I kinda had what your talking about...fuzzy buzzy and a kind of repeat for lack of a better description. It would play a bar or two then repeat a couple of seconds.....weird... I tried everything to save the recording with no luck.... Had folks here listen and such and came to the conclusion that in fact it was my router!! Savannah is a RF nightmare downtown... Went back to the same room a month later with a Linksys E2500..A way to long sound/recording check and no problems what so ever.... I did notice with the 2.4 ghz router that I had many dropouts that night but it hooked right back up and I thought nothing of it as it was the first time I had any drop outs.. Would suggest recording without router and see if that helps.... a dual band router was the fix for me...knock on wood!!!


I think you might have hit it on the head for me. We ran another show on Saturday with the same results. I am hoping to have a sample up tonight going from the Clean recording to the "fuzzy, Buzzy" state. I switched out my routers friday to a 2.4 ghz to try a different route but it had the same results. One funny thing that happen was that we started to listen back to the recording on Saturday after the gig it sounded completely doomed, however when I got it home on Sunday and hooked everything up exactly as it was Saturday night. it was good for about 25 min into the recording and then started to go south. On my sample I was working on you can hear when it starts to go. It sounds like something just zapped the recording, and yet there is no physical appearance of corruption. I was thinking that it was my Laptop, but it just started happening after I updated all my drivers along along with adding a router for my Pad and Phone. Prior to that there was absolutely no issues what so ever.

I probably worked for 3 hours yesterday re-installing drivers and programs along with running a recording test to try and re create the corrupt recordings with no luck, so I am not sure if i am out of the water as for right now. I will be running another test on Wednesday night for a rehearsal to see what happens. I am going to run with the router hooked up and then without.

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kevinr6969 wrote:I have used ASIO4All in the past on an older system and it worked out really well.

You should not use ASIO4ALL with PreSonus mixers and audio interfaces. Select PreSonus FireStudio as audio interface in your audio setup.
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wkundrus wrote:
kevinr6969 wrote:I have used ASIO4All in the past on an older system and it worked out really well.

You should not use ASIO4ALL with PreSonus mixers and audio interfaces. Select PreSonus FireStudio as audio interface in your audio setup.



Yes i have since removed that from my system and haven't used it with my S1. It was more of a Cuebase use.
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Ok trying to post a You tube and am not seeing how to?? how do i post a you tube?

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Here is the link to my fuzzy buzzy recording

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