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taoyoyo
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Bloat, bloat, bloat, bloat.

Get off my lawn!

(seriously, Presonus... don't add *anything* to S1 *ever*... in case it turns into Stodgio One).

In fact, can you make the next version a duplicate of V1 so I don't have to be scared of opening it any more.

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kelldammit
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they're going to take a reactionary approach to avoid bloat...with each succesive version, they'll REMOVE features

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Toth
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I don't need any more features, I would just like some of the current features finetuned.
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PenguiN42
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I don't mind new features, as long as they're well integrated into the workflow, and don't come at the expense of maintaining and refining the old features (stares at certain other programs)
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kelldammit wrote:they're going to take a reactionary approach to avoid bloat...with each succesive version, they'll REMOVE features

kell

Good idea! I suggest it should also limit those users with FOBS (fear of bloat syndrome) to maximum 3 tracks per song to avoid bloat in their compositions
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Bloat isn't good but it does at the very least need some decent free routing features and the automation needs a few tweaks, although nothing that major.
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kelldammit
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free routing would be nice. there is a difference between adding the odd feature here or there, and bloat though.
i mean, melodyne integration was HUGE...but yet...largely transparent, ditto the new midi editor features in v2. I think the presonus devs have a gift for adding things in just the right way.

at this point, i think most of the important stuff is really already there. it's just a matter of tweaking/extending/refining things a bit.

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taoyoyo
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See I think free routing of channels is an essential feature and I don't really consider it to be anything to do with the 'b' word.

I trust the Studio One folk explicitly to be able to continue to add features to the DAW whilst keeping her streamlined but 'Say no Bloat' seems to have become the unwitting catchphrase of this forum... we suggested adding key commands to change the mixer channel sizes and this work-flow enhancement was even considered going too far.

I appreciate that some folk might have all they could ever need with Studio One and for the most part I agree but it doesn't mean that it can't be improved on.
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CTStump
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I think it's time to talk about starting a support group on this phenomenon, I worry when ever a new feature request pops up with a demand to do something the same as their preferred DAW before they will switch hoping to get the ear of the Dev's, I know it sounds paranoid cause so far there has been nothing to worry about but I am in total agreement with you on this and so far the programmers have kept there promise.
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litesnsirens
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I've said it on other threads, I totally trust the devs and I have no fear that they will do anything that will ruin the workflow of S1. As far as people who don't use S1 making feature requests, they should be ignored. Most of us have come from other platforms so we all have learned there are different ways to accomplish the same thing. If they like the way things work on their current DAW stick to it. IF they want a better way come on over.

I just don't have the audacity to think that my vision of S1 is better than the devs who put this amazing piece of software together. Everybody that came over to S1 did so because the devs got it right. Now we have people second guessing them or thinking that they know what it should be or what it shouldn't. Remember they have to please the masses. You only get a product this good if you have focus. What that says to me is we can ask for all the features in the world but if it doesn't fit into the devs vision of S1 it won't make it in. That's not saying they're close-minded to good ideas but I think they'll stay true to their vision.

I really have to ask, what has S1 given us so far that would cause any fear whatsoever?
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litesnsirens wrote:I've said it on other threads, I totally trust the devs and I have no fear that they will do anything that will ruin the workflow of S1. As far as people who don't use S1 making feature requests, they should be ignored. Most of us have come from other platforms so we all have learned there are different ways to accomplish the same thing. If they like the way things work on their current DAW stick to it. IF they want a better way come on over.

I just don't have the audacity to think that my vision of S1 is better than the devs who put this amazing piece of software together. Everybody that came over to S1 did so because the devs got it right. Now we have people second guessing them or thinking that they know what it should be or what it shouldn't. Remember they have to please the masses. You only get a product this good if you have focus. What that says to me is we can ask for all the features in the world but if it doesn't fit into the devs vision of S1 it won't make it in. That's not saying they're close-minded to good ideas but I think they'll stay true to their vision.

I really have to ask, what has S1 given us so far that would cause any fear whatsoever?

I'm in total agreement, I guess my subtle attempt at sarcasm some times fails me and I know there's nothing to worry about.
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litesnsirens
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Sorry, I wasn't necessarily replying to you just the thread in general....
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litesnsirens wrote:Sorry, I wasn't necessarily replying to you just the thread in general....

No offense taken,just a little gun shy, I just started a thread suggesting a sticky on this subject cause it is tiresome to read these on a regular basis and I don't want anybody to think that I'm complaining just need to watch what I write sometimes and besides you said it a lot better than me.
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litesnsirens
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LOL, trust me I know it's not always easy to get the subtleties of what you're trying to convey across with the written word...
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serstickman
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Until S1 installed = Logic 9 any talk of bloat is premature, IMO.
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