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As above: Help says there is Studio One > Options > Locations > VST Plugins tab, but there is no such tab. So, where is the place I can tell my Studio One Artis, about my Third Party VST plugins?
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Spiker wrote:As above: Help says there is Studio One > Options > Locations > VST Plugins tab, but there is no such tab. So, where is the place I can tell my Studio One Artis, about my Third Party VST plugins?


Studio One Artist can't use 3rd party plugins. You have to upgrade to Producer or Professional for that capability.
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Thanks, I've already read about this very strange limitation. I don't understand this "philosophy" which means I have to spend additional money to use plugins I already bought. Unlogical !!! I could understand it if Presonus offers own additional plugins which could be market competition, but they don't. In addition, S1 Artist supports VST, but selectively. I can run Ez DRummer Lite which is VST instrument, NI Player...etc, so it is clear it is not fair. VST supporting algoritms are included in Artist version, but Presonus in fact forces me to "buy" my plugins (coming from Sonar in this case) once again, upgrading to S1 Producer, which don't offer too much more than Artist, except VST support. It is worth to remember that VST support algoritms are included in many freeware, so why I have to pay money for this technology? This is not about money in fact. This is about rules. Presonus, giving me a posibility to use EzDrummer, which is third party software, and not allowing me to use another third party VST plugs are very unfair. Is EzDLite, or NI Players "better" than other VSTi? Why Presonus decides which VSTi I can use in Artist instead of me? I am very disappointed. S1 is a great software (I use almost 20 years Steinberg, and Cakewalk software, so I know what I'm saying) and I almost made decision to leave them and start to use Presonus, but this unfair philosophy unmasks unclear, and unhonest Presonus intentions.

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I've always thought it was an odd and sort of hardcore restriction myself. I'd rather they limit trackcount, or possibly some other features. But every other LE, Lite version of software allows 3rd party plugins.

This has been debated here and other places to quite an extent I think. It's just the way it is. The upgrade to Producer is only $199, and considering most people get Artist free with a hardware purchase, it's still a pretty fair price for the quality DAW you get.

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Ok, I know its a wasting of time, but (last time) lets look at the versions comparison, and what we'll see? There is no differences between Artist and Producer version, except VST support and MP3 export. Conclusion is simple: These two differences costs 190USD. Ridiculous!!! Its a kind of madness!!! Is it fair, nonsense, or is it simply..... greed?
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Wrong question IMHO. Why is Artist - a full featured DAW in itself - so ridiculously inexpensive?

In any case, the differences are no secret so you can easily decide (beforehand) what to do.
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I made my two decisions which were:

1. "buy Studio Live 1602 mixer" and than
2. "lets try the Artist"

so, Your teaching about what I should do is redundant

By the way: the version comparison it is not so clear as sholud be. Why? Becouse VST support is simply DEFAULT, and NATURAL function in ANY DAW. Only one exception is Sonar supporting DXi, on Win . There is no information in version comparison, that Artist can not use external VST. It SHOULD be clearly written. Thats my opinion.

So I have to decide:

1. Use my Sonar X1, with tons of native, and great VST, VSTi, DX and DXi, and third party plugs already paid, with mp3 export, etc, or
2. Spend money for things I already paid and use.

Conclusion: Presonus do everything to convince me to make decision No.1.

and one thing: Artist is not FULL FEATURED DAW. Unfortunately, but it is not. Its a piece of really good DAW, very well done, intuitive, stable, well equipped....whatever You want. But it is not FULL FEATURED

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Get LogicPro and try to use VST....
Get ProTools10 and try to use VST.....

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Both, Logic and PT don't support VST at all. It is clear rule: there is no VST protocol at all. No exceptions. The difference is S1 Artist support VST, and decision which VST I can use should be mine, not Presonus. Situation is the same with Artist on Mac - You can not use external AU plugs. Prohibited !!!!
I don't understand how it is possible You state that everything is OK. I repeat: only one difference between Artist and Pro is VST support - it cost almost 200 USD. VST support is as natural in DAW as tracks, transport bar, and mixer are. Imagine You have to additional pay for these features.
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Spiker wrote:I made my two decisions which were:

1. "buy Studio Live 1602 mixer" and than
2. "lets try the Artist"

You made two very good decisions. Artist is exactly that, a let's try before we change DAWs kind of thing. It does have it's own well done plugs and even instruments as well as third party content. Search the web for songs exclusively produced entirely using S1 Artist content. If you decide you like the workflow and creativity of Artist and would like to move forward, then Producer or Pro should be considered. If not use the digital mixer with another DAW that suits, after all, Artist, as you mentioned, was FREE.

The upgrade is chump change considering you bought a 16.0.2, don't you think?

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Spiker wrote:(...) Artist is not FULL FEATURED DAW. Unfortunately, but it is not. Its a piece of really good DAW, very well done, intuitive, stable, well equipped....whatever You want. But it is not FULL FEATURED

Just for the record: I may have used an unfortunate wording. It certainly depends on what you consider "full featured".

If it means "having every single feature ever invented for any DAW", there's of course none that fulfills that.

If it means "you can do a production from start to finish", Artist doesn't fall behind any other software. That's what I was saying.

If you mean something in between, it's obviously totally subjective. You consider VST support natural, while there are several DAWs without it (and your argument of the different versions in this regard doesn't make sense to me). I say, Artist is for "try before you buy" as well as for a specific target group of artists that won't necessarily need VSTs (at least not from the very start).

Anyway, just to clarify my statement ...
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Well...also...being able to read, and able to use an internet connection to find out regular faq's is an essential to being able to make informed decisions these days.

His story sounds a bit strange...pay big dollar, and have no idea about software limitations etc. Does anybody buy a rig these days without a little research!?

If he bought stuff from a reputable dealer, he could exchange everything for something that works...but if it was shady in any way, he'll be stuck.
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Yes, that's why this "The upgrade is chump change considering you bought a 16.0.2, don't you think? " Also, agree on the research and once again, why complain about a DAW that was absolutely free with the interface? Uh, get a refund????

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Spiker wrote:I don't understand how it is possible You state that everything is OK.

It is OK - you get, what you pay for. Actually, that there are not more features missing in Artist is a bargain......
Now stop trolling.
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Skip, do You really think that Artist is free? If You want to believe in this illusion...OK. but be sure that price for Artist is calculated in Studio Live price, as any kind of OEM software.
Herr Markus, I'm not trolling. But if You really want, I can do it for You.

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