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Paul Ferguson
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Hey, I'd like to get more on top of the Universal Control Mixer. I'm using it, but I really don't know how it works. Anyone know of any useful sources of information about it?
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What do you want to do with it?
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I do homerecording. Up to three tracks being recorded at one time, sometimes analog, sometimes MIDI. Mixing 20-30 tracks in a session.

I'm confused about things like:

* Why do I have a choice of inputs for Channel 1? Why isn't Channel 1 in the mixer always occupied by 'Mic 1'?

* What's the significance of Daw1 thru Daw6? There are two outs on the Firestudio Mobile, so why have so many options?

* And what about the Daw1 thru Daw6 outputs? They can be linked with adjacent outputs, or not; panned opposite the adjacent output, or not? Why the options and how to use them?

* What about the Mixer panel on the right? Right now, mine assigns the output of the Mixer to Daw 1 & 2, and for some reason that I forget, I assigned the headphone panel to Daw 3 & 4. Dumb?

Feel free to answer any or all of the above.
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I have a FireStudio Project, but I used to have a FireStudio Mobile. They're pretty similar anyway, so I hope I can help.

* Why do I have a choice of inputs for Channel 1? Why isn't Channel 1 in the mixer always occupied by 'Mic 1'?


I'm not totally positive here, but because this is a software mixer, not a piece of hardware, you can use the channel (fader, pan, mute solo, etc) for whatever real hardware input you want. It should default to match your connected hardware though (Channel 1 mapped to Input 1, etc).

* What's the significance of Daw1 thru Daw6? There are two outs on the Firestudio Mobile, so why have so many options?


Daw 1-6 are the sends from your DAW (still software). There are actually six outputs on the FireStudio Mobile. 1 and 2 are usually reserved for the Main Outs on the back of the FSM (keep in mind you need two for stereo, L&R). 3 and 4 are usually reserved for the headphone outs (again, stereo L&R). 5 and 6 I believe are defaulted to output through SPDIF (the RCA connections on the back of the FSM).

* And what about the Daw1 thru Daw6 outputs? They can be linked with adjacent outputs, or not; panned opposite the adjacent output, or not? Why the options and how to use them?


Yes, the button that looks like a chainlink links the pairs (1-2, 3-4, 5-6). I think in general if you're using Universal Control as the recording mixer (instead of Studio One or some other DAW), you should link the pairs. Doing this pans the L to the left and the R to the right. This sends the right sounds to the left and right channels.

* What about the Mixer panel on the right? Right now, mine assigns the output of the Mixer to Daw 1 & 2, and for some reason that I forget, I assigned the headphone panel to Daw 3 & 4. Dumb?


I think the idea is that you can choose which mixes Universal Control controls. For any that you do have active (blue light on, faders enabled), you use the input faders and Daw/output faders to mix your sound while recording. Having multiple tabs on the right allows you to have separate mixes of sounds in each output (1-2/mains, 3-4/phones, 5-6/spdif). Headphones in 3-4? Not dumb. That's the default and seems to work just fine.

To be honest, if you're using Studio One there isn't a real need to use Universal Control. This is what confused me when I first started with Presonus gear. A call to tech support quickly got me on the right track to using the mixer in Studio One. If you do use Studio One and want to go this route, leave everything off in Universal Control. Don't even open the application. If you have another DAW (other users will have to chime in here), I believe you might still use universal control to mix while recording because it allows you zero latency monitoring (controlled by the fader and other controls for the input/s you're recording). The DAW sounds (stuff already recorded) comes through just the same.

How's that?

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Hey thanks - that was really useful. The big revelation for me in what you said is how you don't need Universal Control on to record! (I've been thinking it's necessary.) So it looks like the only crucial settings in Universal Control is the Out 1-2 fader on the right, and the stereo panning of DAW 1 & 2, and DAW 3 & 4.

It also looks like I've been using it the way it was designed to be used, which is a comfort.

Finally, I'm recording and mixing in another DAW (Audition) so basically I think UC is best left alone and turned off, except for that master fader.

Thanks a lot.

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I think you'll still have to open UC, no need to alter anything there as your DAW will be the control surface.

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How do you control headphone volume and routing of signal from PC software to the headphones in Universal Control. I have selected the Firewire icon on each channel I want to hear in the headphones, but ...
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Another purpose for using UC is to set up an in/out routing scheme with UC and then you can use the unit without any PC exactly with this programmed setup for live, rehersal and so on. It is saved on the unit until next re-programming.
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davidschamus wrote:How do you control headphone volume and routing of signal from PC software to the headphones in Universal Control. I have selected the Firewire icon on each channel I want to hear in the headphones, but ...


Don't use Universal Control for that. Use your audio interface or mixer.
 
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