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comping: layers don't follow comp, are you anoyed by this???
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donov
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As I said, when you make a comp the takes don't follow the comp, when you copy/move the comp, they don't follow.
I don't remember how it was in cubase but I think when you are done with comping and you collapse the comp, when you move or copy it, the takes follow and this way you can edit the comp later if you want or make variations when you copy it etc.
currently in v2 there is no way to move or edit the takes, so I am left with having to delete the layers when I have a comp I like.the only way to move the takes is to make them active one by one and move them that way I think

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I like layers to be layers. This way I can keep alternative arrangements/parts tucked away. Maybe for the comping aspect of it you should be able to group the clips to the audiopart.

Trying to imagine exactly what you mean, got any cubase videos?
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well I am not saying it's done bad,
it's just I expected that when you make a comp and then consolidate it in a audio part,when I move or copy the comped audio part that the layers from which the comp is made would move with it.
At the moment if you have moved the comp and want to edit it, you have to move it back in place where the layers are
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It does seem like a very simple implimentation. I don't comp much but it looks like some way of rubber banding should be available.
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what I'd like is a lock/sync option of some kind, so that when you move the clip in the active track every clip midi/audio that's in the range of the active track should move/copy with it.
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Best thing is to select all the parts then hit the "g" key to group them in an audio part. I'm patisioning for them to make this step automatic
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scottharrell wrote:Best thing is to select all the parts then hit the "g" key to group them in an audio part. I'm patisioning for them to make this step automatic


grouping is great for consolidating the active part, but if you don't like to loose things and have your options open to edit the comp later, the option to have the takes folow the active event is a must.

for ex, I use S1 in the creative process,
so I loop record guitars, vocals while experimenting and then I arrange them around.
And say I want to make a second comp for the chorus from the comp I already have and have copied and moved to the place where the second chorus is.you don't have the takes anymore for the second comp, you have to move it back in the place of the first one and comp there.

- so either an option to have the takes from a comp to lock together when moved
- or an option to edit the layers, so I can move them under the copied comp and edit there
- or both

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I have some weird behavior now:

I have recorded drums (13 tracks) on layer one - then I punched in and used circle-recording to get a comp. I had three takes done and tired to check out the comping. Several things occurred that really need to have a look at:

1.Edit: This one I solved!
I unpacked the comp of these grouped 13 tracks and had to unpack them track by track - why did this not effect all tracks at once, when they were grouped? I found it in the manual - control click in the track header: those commands work on all grouped tracks at once.

2. After finding out how everything should work I marked a range on take one and double-clicked to get it in the track - worked (but only for four tracks - the further tracks got the same range marked but in another take!




Trying to mark the correct range in the other tracks made the program crash.

3. The crash is reproducible - when marking a range in the 3rd take it only affects tracks 1-4 - in other tracks no range is marked.



Upon trying to mark the ranges on the other tracks and double-click crashes the program.

All crashes can be reproduced at exactly the same step. I'm wondering what tech support will say.

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It seems you have found a reproducible bug, so we'll take a look and get it fixed, thanks.
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My main issue with comping is that only works with looped sections.
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Maybe that is the case too - in my case I did not enable "record to layers" before recording, but did a loop recording anyway.


But it has to work also, if recordings shall be comped later. I have Version-1 Songs were I recorded many drum parts for an entire Song on different layers - there is simply the need to be able to comp them later on...... it would save a lot of work!

Thanks Jonathan for taking care of it.

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Which I tried out right now:

Old Version One recording with 8 Layers of drums - the problem is: after 5 takes I decided to put the overheads in a stereo track and add a microphone for the ride cymbal - so actually only takes 6-8 can be comped in a group. trying to select something in take 1 makes the program crash. I saved the crash report.

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Got a mail from tech-support: Problem will be fixed in 2.0.3.
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I agree. It's frustrating trying to work with comps if the layers can't be moved/copied/pasted with them.
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I have also been having problems with the comping. I do Voice Over work and I usually do about 4 takes and put them into the layers but not all the time the tracks will line up weather it's because I maybe screwed up a line or my cadence that time might be a little off ect. When I unpack the tracks into layers I can't edit the layers or move the tracks to line up correctly or edit those layers where I made a mistake to maybe cut out a part so then I can line up all the tracks. If I do a comp and I like something on one of the layers and double click it will go up to the track I want but not in the right place so then I move the double clicked part over to the part where it is supposed to be I still hear the comped recording play over the part that I didn't like but I also hear that part at the same time as the comped part.

I have gone back to unpacking all the tracks in to new tracks instead of the layers because I can edit the tracks and place the comped pieces where they belong and I find it to be easier in my type of business to do that.
The tool for listening to your tracks is just awesome for me when comping. Works really fast so I don't have to click on the track solo it and then listen. Using the Listen tool works so nice a great feature that I use daily.
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