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Gary McCourt
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I have a MCU and a C4 and I’ve tried it with the demos of S1 and now S1v2

MCU = Fader, pan, transport and zoom WORK everything else is a wash out. Plug-in, EQ, Track bus, fit to.., scrub etc. are all non-functioning, it's a half A$$ed job.

C4 = no function to speak of, set it as MCU you get as mentioned above 8 knobs for pan, set it as Midi device and using Control link results in random movements of the FX knob,

I think it may be possible to re-write the .XML file form the MCU to correspond correctly to the C4 but I'm not too sure if that alone will solve the problem.

Compared to the way it is implemented and woks in Sonar, Studio One has a long way to go.
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This has been a long time gripe of mine with Presonus. I just feel that controller support is not high on their list. It's really the only thing that keeps alot of folks away from Studio One.

But so many of us have posted about this and, well, they're just not able to do it at this point.

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Gary McCourt
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themuzic wrote:
This has been a long time gripe of mine with Presonus. I just feel that controller support is not high on their list. It's really the only thing that keeps alot of folks away from Studio One.

But so many of us have posted about this and, well, they're just not able to do it at this point.



I can't really even consider S1 in it's current state, with its lack of control function.

Also the suggestions I've heard about a dedicated controller from Presonus are just a big dig,
Feels like "We'll make a controller and then you can buy it to get good results with S1"
Just doesn't sit well with me
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Frank and gary , I can sympathize , I own a tascam fw1884 which is a control surface and audio interface combined . If presonus released their own control surface then if I were to sell the tascam to buy the presonus controller I'd also have to purchase a separate audio interface , unweildy and expensive .
The tascam supports Mackie emulation and HUI emulation but in S1 all that works is the faders ,mute ,solo and transport buttons . There are so many functions that I could control with the tascam but at present without a dedicated template developed by presonus they are redundant . Tascam discontinued support for the fw last year leaving me hoping presonus can get hold of the hardware to support it .
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It seems to me that instead of trying to support every interface ever, all Presonus has to do is implement robust Mackie HUI support and most people would be happy. Supporting a range of button/knob/fader configurations, LCD screens, jog wheel, an on-screen indication of the current track bank, and allowing re-mapping via control link a la the faderport. HUI support only arrived in 1.6 so it seems likely that it should be improved... i hope
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themuzic wrote:
This has been a long time gripe of mine with Presonus. I just feel that controller support is not high on their list. It's really the only thing that keeps alot of folks away from Studio One.

But so many of us have posted about this and, well, they're just not able to do it at this point.


This really makes no sense to me. If Ableton can do it surely Presonus can! This feels more like stubbornness to me, or perhaps allowing the planned or vision for their own controller minimize their understanding of the clear impact this is having on their userbase.

v.2 is fantastic, Love it! But one of the few things which can effect every aspect of a DAW is whether you can control it externally... it also seems like one of the marking differences between a major studio using one DAW over another (I'm generalizing of course). S1 is my main goto DAW now due to some of the new features, I needed warping and something like Melodyne, I got it (plus folder tracks

A Daw without great controller support is sort of like the Macbook Air when all it had was usb ports and no CD/DVD drive. For many it was a useless product since most products came on cd at that time.

I felt that was one of the few areas Presonus could have given a little more detail in the webinars, I feel like they are somehow trying to put a good spin on their lack in this area. They need to stop playing around with this one and let us know what they are doing.

I personally would love to see Novation support, better Mackie integration, Eucon support, an iPad dedicated APP from Presonus, and an enhanced Faderport like we have all mentioned for the last 2 years.

My personal setup is fine for now. I use the AC7 iPad app in Studio One mode with a Fader port for when I need something tactile. This was the best option when my older MCU finally kicked it. But with all the hardware experience that Presonus has had, this just seems somewhat retarded to me.

Thanks for chiming in Jonathan, I truly appreciate it, and know I'd love hangin with you all (especially down there in hot sause heaven) but I'd love it if you begged Presonus for permission to reveal a little more concerning the timeframe and nature of your controlling products will be.

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Question - Just putting it out there. Does AC7 app give full functional control? If it does give full functional control of S1 via HUI, why can't others work?

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bdhender wrote:Question - Just putting it out there. Does AC7 app give full functional control? If it does give full functional control of S1 via HUI, why can't others work?



Not sure about AC7, but I've used TouchDAW on android which is similar, and in studio one mode it has the same HUI restrictions as any other HUI interface -- only volume and pan control, limited feedback to the device for text display, etc.

I'm holding on to my hope that the HUI implementation in 1.6 was a "throw them a bone and implement *something*" approach, and that a more feature-complete implementation is in the pipeline.
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I've just checked AC7 on my iphone and it does have fairly extensive Mackie Control functionality. Just too small on the phone. Would probably be quite good on a ipad.
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bdhender wrote:Question - Just putting it out there. Does AC7 app give full functional control? If it does give full functional control of S1 via HUI, why can't others work?



It is very good actually (especially with the faderport for a more tactile response). The AC7 has quite a few "hot buttons" similar to what a Mackie MCU or Euphonix Artist series might (with the iPad version).

I've found it to be a great combination. The other great thing about the AC7 for mac users is that you do not need to create an "ad-hoc" network, you just sign into it.

2 color schemes and presets for Ableton, PT, S1, DP, and Sonar.

It's been a life saver for me and probably the only thing that allowed me to use S1 as my Mackie MCU was not working correctly with it.

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Good to know. Thanks bigcohoona. One step closer to the ipad
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bdhender wrote:Good to know. Thanks bigcohoona. One step closer to the ipad


It was the cheapest solution for me personally. I bought a new version 1 iPad 64 gig model pretty cheap and the faderport for far less than a an MCU Pro or really anything else (that works) would cost. I thought about the Behringer B2000, which is pretty good, but only about 200 cheaper and thought about all the iPad does on the side, out of the studio.

I'm hoping and banking on Presonus porting over their studiolive controller App for Studio One.... here's hoping

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i have tried V2 with my euphonix artist control V2, 2x mic mixes, and mc transport in hui and mackie control mode

its not any better at all and i cannot get any of them working individually, with 3 instances of either hui or mackie the faders on each move together.

no pan control

no transport control that i can get working

seriously? v2 is really nice, but no way i am ditching eucon control which kills hui and mackie and is really great in the other DAW's i have

way back when this thread started jonathan stated few people had these controllers, well i think at this point a whole lot of people do, and this would make S2 just that much better

even Samp is coming out with it now

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Just a video showing the Tascam FW1884.
Would be great to get this working in S1 like it does in Nuendo
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