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matthewgorman
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As stated in the post above, check the settings in windows, and also the settings in the media players you are using. If the mixes sound the same on all the external media players, look into windows. They have a lot of sound enhancing/processing settings. The other are to look, do you have any processing on the sound board on the channels the audio is routed to in windows?
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Wait so say it was a problem with my WMP or VLC. Wouldn't other people's tracks also sound as weird when played through?

Also I run the audio straight through the tape in of my mixer so no effects are applied.

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JoseDrums wrote:Wait so say it was a problem with my WMP or VLC. Wouldn't other people's tracks also sound as weird when played through?


Maybe not, unless you had another version to compare it to.
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JoseDrums wrote:Wait so say it was a problem with my WMP or VLC. Wouldn't other people's tracks also sound as weird when played through?

No, people will not all have this problem. It completely depends on how you have your software setup.

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Also I run the audio straight through the tape in of my mixer so no effects are applied.

As I said earlier - if every one of your media players sounds "wrong", then it likely isn't the media player setting (unless you set every one of them with the same EQ settings). It is likely the Windows Audio settings. DAWS do not go through Windows Audio, but Windows Media, iTunes and VLC do.

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1: If you have a Studio LIve can I assume you use that as the audio interface for your DAW?
2: If you run your windows audio into the "tape input" of the Studio Live - does that mean you are using the build in audio card for your Windows sounds (including Windows Media Player, iTunes, etc...)?

If so - that could be the difference. Quality (Studio Live) vs non-quality ($14.99 sound card build into a computer).
You are not listening to the song on equal setups - therefore they really cannot be compared.

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I'm running a few tests to see what's wrong today, I'll have the results in tonight.
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One thing I did find when checking the my sound settings is that I had a loudness setting?
I just took it off, it didn't do much.

I'm going to use Audacity to record straight out of the project file using stereo mix.
I'll also do the same by just playing it through quicktime and WMP.

After that I'll look at the recordings with a spectrum meter to see if everything matches...

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Hello guys so here is what I did:
I recorded straight from my studiolive output into Audacity and hit play in Studio One. (The Studio One signal was being sent through firewire into the mixer)
I got a perfect match of what was inside studio one.(Of course)

Then I exported the track from the Project page in Studio One and changed up the routing of the cables. What I did was connect the output of my computer to the tape in of the mixer, and the output of the mixer being connected into my monitors.

Either way I used Audacity's Stereo Mix to record all system sounds: I just opened up the export in quicktime and hit play.
It sounded perfectly as in the Project page in Studio One.

So yes, both the export and the mix inside studio one sound exactly the same.

I still don't know why the day I needed to export my track(when this forum started) it sounded so awful?
I didn't do anything different yesterday... And I got a perfect match. You can definitely hear the difference!

Also I read on one of the forums about this something about flipping the polarity of the export using the mixtool to check if they're the same? Can someone explain to me what this means please?

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JoseDrums wrote:Also I read on one of the forums about this something about flipping the polarity of the export using the mixtool to check if they're the same? Can someone explain to me what this means please?

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It means that if you have two copies of the same audio and flip the polarity in one of them they should cancel each other, meaning no sound,makes sense?

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OKay Thank you here is what I am doing
1)export the file
2)Create new track where I drag in the file I exported
3)drag into the new track the mixtool and use the preset invert phase?
*I do this all while having no effects on the main bus

When I do this though the whole sound just gets distorted and I start clipping?

Edit: OKay so I just did this with a song I downloaded from the internet and yes this worked. I heard no noise.

So since my export didn't cancel the actual song in S1 it's not the same? Any reason why this would be?

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If you have two identical signals, reversing the polarity of one of them will cancel everything out (yielding silence). But if they are not perfectly identical, or the phases are partly offset, you'll get some cancellation part of the time, and summation of the waves sometimes.
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Thanks guys,
So I don't know what was happening the day I needed to export the song :/ it honestly didn't come up so good, and it was for a competition deadline, hence, my frustration. I exported it again and it sounded perfectly yesterday...
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