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How to get the audio file follow tempo
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Playing with the tempo track will alter the playback speed of the audio clip, but it doesn't solve the problem of what one would consider auto timestretch, ie: drop a clip in a track and have the program say, "OK, stretch this to the nearest bar marker, next". At the moment the "easiest" way to make a lack-of-loop-meta data clip play in sync with the project tempo is to drop it in, with all the only-if-the-loop-data-is-there Timestretch boxes ticked and fiddle with the speed-up ratio until it locks in to the bar. And that is a deal breaker, work flow wise, for EDM producers.

There "should" be a mechanism where the clip becomes maleable.

In Sonar, click Clip Properties, tick loop, dumb clips hit the next bar marker, with clip editing (# of beats etc).
In Acid, simply grab the end of the file and drag it to tell it what it's playback data.
In Live, set the Clip data much like Sonar only a grittier presentation.
In Logic, tell it it's a loop and set the limits.

So far all I've seen here is fiddle about and something good will happen. If we're going to have to use the speed ratio at least tie a nudge key to it;.

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I disagree.

The only thing you need to do with loops that don't have tempo data, is set the tempo. You don't even have to enable Timestretch inside a song if the option was checked when creating the song.

Currently the Tempo Track or using the speedup function isn't needed to lock loops to the grid Tempo wise, all you need is the tempo. It couldn't be easier.
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Not to nit pick, but the Song has been set to Timestretch, here's a file with no loop meta data, dragged in to place with tempo and all set as proposed. Tell me how this file is set to project tempo of 105 when in reality it is parked at 125? If in fact the program is going to consider this a "loop" and play it at project tempo it should park itself in the song at 105 and be ready to go.

I edited my previous post after the response. Most other software has a mechanism for dealing with this. What, exactly, is Studio One's response to this? This clip, without loop meta data can be easily forced to respond in a number of other programs and it ain't happening here. Yet. We should be able to work this out somehow. I'm missing something I'm sure.
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Call this a minor epiphany...IF you know the file's original tempo, loop meta data or no, and enter THAT tempo into the file tempo field, you'll get a loop that is now elastic. However if you have no idea what the original tempo is/was you're still back to nerd land for figuring it out as the program will not make it easy for you figure without doing a time line comparison or other such time wasting procedure.

Just put some handles on the clip and make it easy, jeez. A person can get more flexibility for half the money. For the price of this program in it's Pro version it ought to pop a clip into a bar frame or walk my dogs while I futz with it.

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If you don't know the exact tempo, you could use the "Define Tempo" function to set it graphically.
With the Arrow tool enabled, press "Ctrl + Alt" (Mac: Cmd + Option) on the right edge of the event and drag it e.g. to the next bar.
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Now THAT'S what I'm talkin' about!!!

Thanks!

Damn, man, I owe you some beers or a decent bottle of wine!

Keep askin' the same question and pretty soon the cat from Germany with the answer shows up.

KIck ass!

Now here's a secret...I was Logic product specialist before Logic was Logic so bravo to yet another German guy with a clue.

Phil From Texas

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I should own the fact that this information IS in the manual, and I did find it while actually reading for something else.

Which is not an indictment of the manual's organization in any way, just that user head gap should be acknowledged by those who possess it.

Thanks again
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