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jc24
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They told me it was rejected because all 3 of the masters I delivered were done as TAO...and yes, I zipped the DDP...

Just to make myself clear, I don't know the reason the DDP was rejected, but I do know that the audio CDs were rejected because they were burnt in TAO mode.

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Interesting. Thanks for the information!

EDIT: In this case, using a Nero NRG (which I always do anyway for certain reasons) would definitely help ...

EDIT 2: Even more interestingly, Wikipedia states that RAW mode, not DAO, is actually needed to write subchannel information like CD-Text. Not sure what to make of this information ...

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Yeah in the end, the only way I could submit a valid master was to choose 'Create Image File' then import the wav and cue sheet into Wavelab and create the CD. Not ideal

And just to make myself doubly clear, the second DDP I submitted was fine (I sent them this after they had already pressed from the audio CD which I created in Wavelab, just to check it for me). So it appears that everything works fine except for the 'Burn CD' option. For me at least...

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jc24 wrote:I'm assuming (and hoping) that I've missed something here...whenever I burn a CD from the Project page, it burns it as a 'Track-at-once' disk, not 'disk-at-once', meaning of course that they will always be rejected by manufacturing plants. I can't find any options to change regarding this, so I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction. .


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wkundrus wrote:
Studio One uses Disc-at-Once writing


S1 Pro users don't have the TAO option? only DAO?

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jc24
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wkundrus wrote:
jc24 wrote:I'm assuming (and hoping) that I've missed something here...whenever I burn a CD from the Project page, it burns it as a 'Track-at-once' disk, not 'disk-at-once', meaning of course that they will always be rejected by manufacturing plants. I can't find any options to change regarding this, so I'm hoping that someone can point me in the right direction. .


Studio One uses Disc-at-Once writing


Thank you, I realise that's what it's supposed to do - did you read the thread?! It's certainly not burning in DAO in my case
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jc24
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Just in case anyone else is experiencing the same thing, this is the response I got from tech support:

1. Go to "Start>Control Panel>Programs and Features." Locate Studio One and uninstall.
2. Next, go to "Start>Computer." In the address bar type: "%appdata%" then go to the "Presonus" folder, then go to the "Studio One" folder. Locate the "user.license" file.
3. Place this file on your desktop. Now delete the Studio One Folder.
4. Restart your computer.
5. After restart, go to our website, login to your account, and download the latest Studio One installer.
6. After the download completes, install Studio One.
7. After the install completes go to "Start>Computer." In the address bar, type: "%appdata%" then go to the "PreSonus" folder, then to the "Studio One" folder. Place the "user.license" file from your desktop into this folder.
8. Open Studio One and the problem should now be fixed.


I've done this and have sent the disc off the to plant for them to check - I'll let you know if the problem has been fixed!
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I wonder if there is any chance that the duplicator gave you the wrong info about why it was rejected. I just have a hard time believing that no one else has run into this yet unless the coding for burning was updated/changed with the latest release. I have submitted at least 3 different masters in CD-R format using S1v2 to burn and had no rejects on that basis (or any other). There are a lot of people using Pro, and I haven't heard a peep about this particular issue -- at least not until now.
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jc24
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Yeah I know, it's very odd. I even went in to the plant to check out what was going on, and all the red lights were popping up on their hardware unit they use for testing, indicating that the laser had been interrupted during the burning process - not sure if this is the correct way to describe what happens, but you know what I mean!

I'll send it to another plant just to make sure it's not the plant, but as I said, when I submitted the same master created in Wavelab (which I made from the Image File out of S1) it passed with flying colours...
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Your description of laser interruption makes me think that it could have been a hardware glitch when burning, but that the disc was not actually written in TAO mode, but just appeared to be because of a glitch while it was writing.
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jc24
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It's unlikely to be a hardware glitch. I've had 7 audio CDs that were created using S1 rejected, and every single time I switch back to wavelab, it works perfectly. That would be far too much of a coincidence...
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jc24
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OK, so I followed the steps above given by technical support, and the plant says the problem has been partially fixed, but that the CD still is not being finalised correctly. Here are the reports the plant sent me - I don't know what any of it means, but perhaps some here do? (I've sent it to tech support too, so hopefully will hear back from them soon).

I've also completely ruled out the possibility of it being a hardware issue - 8 masters rejected now from my main DAW, and I submitted 3 done on a completely different computer, and it was the same story.

This is really weird, especially as it seems to just be me that's experiencing these issues. But maybe not many users manufacture physical discs?
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I recently bought Audiobox USB which included condenser mike, earphones and cables. Managed to make several simple recordings without any FX. I followed the instructions in the handbook but that is as far as it goes. The book doesn't advise in simple terms how to mix, master or save to itunes and to CD.
I previously used a Zoom MRS4 from which I could save tracks to itunes and to disc.
The sound quality is good when played back through the Presotus software but I cannot identify any commands which will allow the music to be saved other in Presonus itself using a file type which itunes or Windows Media Player would not recognise. Could it be that I need an additional programme?
I have watched instruction videos on Youtube. These are too advanced. I don't want to learn how to be a sound engineer. My friend and I only wish to rehearse and to exchange info on MP3.
When we have practiced enough we will visit a local recording studio.
Can anyone help?
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Eddie Macarthur
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i am also having trouble duplicating discs burned in studio one. have sent an email to tech support a fews ago. no reply yet...
i'm a new user of studio one (but very experienced in digtal audio ). i normally use sony cd architect to make a master disc, then use my 2 standalone cd /dvd duplicators (2 different brands) to make copies. both duplicators rejected discs made in studio one. tried different burn speeds, image file etc. my pc has a dvd/cd burner and a blu-ray/dvd/cd burner. both gave same problem, even though they produce perfect masters in cd architect which the duplicators read and copy flawlessly... my solution for now is to do what original user did; make an image file in studio one with my processing, then import wav into cd architect to burn. a waste of time! having to do the job twice almost. the presonus software is meant to be the new, better guy. that's why i was retiring cd architect, because it can't access vst plugins. discs burned in studio one seem to play ok in a cd player. it's duplicators that smell a problem. presonus please investigate and fix! ed

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jc24
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Yeah tech support weren't any help for me and just became annoying with the way they don't listen to what you say, even though you'd spend hours compiling evidence etc. to try and help solve the problem. I gave up in the end and am using Wavelab again. And guess what? Not a single rejected disc, just like the old days!
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