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How to set up external VST plugins in Studio One 2 Artist
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daniellyle
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Yep it's lame... They should support it. It's a pretty standard feature. It's like selling a car without turn signals.
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skiltrip wrote:I've always thought it was an odd and sort of hardcore restriction myself. I'd rather they limit trackcount, or possibly some other features. But every other LE, Lite version of software allows 3rd party plugins.

This has been debated here and other places to quite an extent I think. It's just the way it is. The upgrade to Producer is only $199, and considering most people get Artist free with a hardware purchase, it's still a pretty fair price for the quality DAW you get.



I upgraded to Pro, I see VST plugins tab, but nearly no plugins are uploaded for use. It looks like the engine for VST 2.0 is not starting or it is not there. Simly said, I cannot use what I was using before with Ableton Live.

Another shitty thing is Presonus FireStudio or VSL1818 soundcards. Both has idiotic drivers. FireStudio doesn't let audio out after startup. First you have to click on graphical interface at right place otherwise you won't hear anything.

I stopped believing in Presonus - looks like they don't know what they do.
daniellyle
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I upgraded to Pro, I see VST plugins tab, but nearly no plugins are uploaded for use. It looks like the engine for VST 2.0 is not starting or it is not there. Simly said, I cannot use what I was using before with Ableton Live.

Another shitty thing is Presonus FireStudio or VSL1818 soundcards. Both has idiotic drivers. FireStudio doesn't let audio out after startup. First you have to click on graphical interface at right place otherwise you won't hear anything.

I stopped believing in Presonus - looks like they don't know what they do.


Sounds like user error... Have you tried reading through the forums to find an answer?

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jankovarr
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daniellyle wrote:
I upgraded to Pro, I see VST plugins tab, but nearly no plugins are uploaded for use. It looks like the engine for VST 2.0 is not starting or it is not there. Simly said, I cannot use what I was using before with Ableton Live.

Another shitty thing is Presonus FireStudio or VSL1818 soundcards. Both has idiotic drivers. FireStudio doesn't let audio out after startup. First you have to click on graphical interface at right place otherwise you won't hear anything.

I stopped believing in Presonus - looks like they don't know what they do.


Sounds like user error... Have you tried reading through the forums to find an answer?


Actually, I am not sure if not enough information or debug messages within SO 2.5 itself is user error..
You were right that solution was written within forum : SO2.5 64bit version ignores 32 bits plugins.
Now, I installed 32bit version and I am fine now. Still got issues with short sound dropouts during playback or recording...
-- Presonus HW was stable during recording, but bad in anything else(it had dropouts when listening to streamed audio). Now, I have other-brand-firewire-sound-card and it does dropouts. Truly, this is a sad story.

Something here is really lame- I believe it would be both Presonus and Win 7 x64 as well. I wish I had OS X.... maybe that is the difference.
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Something here is really lame- I believe it would be both Presonus and Win 7 x64 as well. I wish I had OS X.... maybe that is the difference


I love fishing... Here me out on this... This year I have started taking my family fishing. Between my bride and my two children (3 and 7) there are a lot of hangups and knotted lines. This was very frustrating to me. Something that was previously very relaxing was now less then relaxing. Here's how I handled it: I accepted the fact that hangups and knotted lines were a reality. So I took a different approach. I stopped fishing. And instead focused my attention on helping my bride and children fish. Two things happened. First, the frequency of the hangups and knotted lines lessened. And two, I was a lot less frustrated and actually enjoyed the time I had with my family. After we fish for awhile my wife heads home with the kids and I put in a half and hour or so of fishing by myself.

The reality is we just have to deal with this kind of stuff regardless of platform, os, or product because every platform, os, or product has it's own issues (hangups and knotted lines)--some less then others but regardless they are still present. I have found that roughly 20% of home recording is trouble shooting. We have to make trouble shooting part of the joy. We have to anticipate that there will be issue for which we will have to find answers. I think if more guys got themselves in that frame of mind they would be far less frustrated. No single platform, os, or product is going to eliminate the need to trouble shoot. It's just a reality and if we come to terms with it I think we will be far less frustrated and more productive at recording.
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urbanblaksmith
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I can understand that he is a little disappointed, but I made the upgrade from artist to producer, and VST support is not the only difference, you actually get a much wider soundset (Im not sure how many gigs) and you get Komplete Elements (I know its not much but its worth $50 retail I believe). The soundsets are many and Im pretty sure they include patches for all the instruments.
BTW... the plugins included with studio one are above and beyond many other DAWS, even some of the expensive ones.

Also, you guys are claiming VST should be a must have feature for DAWs? I have used reason for 10+ years as my main workstation and it never had VSTs, only recently has it included rack extensions (Third party plugins). The moral of the story is if it works why fix it XD. But I know we are always looking for new toys and I understand

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kaysuave
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Spiker wrote:Ok, I know its a wasting of time, but (last time) lets look at the versions comparison, and what we'll see? There is no differences between Artist and Producer version, except VST support and MP3 export. Conclusion is simple: These two differences costs 190USD. Ridiculous!!! Its a kind of madness!!! Is it fair, nonsense, or is it simply..... greed?



You can actually upgrade from Artist 2 to Producer 2 for $75. I do fully agree that it is inconvenient to pay extra for only 2 additions to the DAW. But I guess they are a business and need to get people to buy the more expensive products somehow.
codamedia
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A little bit of a zombie thread brought back to life - and still very annoying

1: Artist comes included with most Presonus interfaces... Don't tell me it's built into the price. The hardware is priced for the market to complete with other hardware. Artist is just throwing in as a bone hoping you might upgrade.
2: It's doesn't cost much if bought separately (that's how I got it).
3: It has unlimited tracks ....
4: It has a **** pile of great sounding effects.
5: It has a few usable VST instruments.
6: It provides an inexpensive upgrade path to the next level that unlocks VST, AU, Rewire, and a few others etc...
7: It provides 32 and 64 bit versions.

VST is what Presonus chose as the key upgrade path rather than limiting your track count, not allowing you to export, or providing 32 bit only, etc... Yes VST is pretty much a standard, but you don't need it with this software. If you want it - it's just a small upgrade away.

This is the first time I have used a "limited software" that had so few limits. 2 years after purchase - I am still using it. I own a lot of VST's from when I was a Sonar user including a few Waves and Fab Filter effects. I don't miss them and I am still able to produce great music with ARTIST. If you absolutely need VST support - upgrade! It's $100 or less for the Producer upgrade and you likely haven't paid anything for Artist anyway.

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1. Studio One Free: Very high quality, super generous giveaway. Even novice musicians can sound like pros.
2. Studio One Artist: Included with many hardware packages. Full parametric EQ, compressor, limiter, room reverb...etc etc.
Almost any sound achievable. More power than a $30,000 studio of 20 years ago. Oh yeah, you get track folders, too.
3. Studio One Producer: Even more effects. VST functionality. But the included effects are tremendous. Man, we are all spoiled!
4. Studio One Pro: Now you get the mastering suite. Remember, even S1 FREE is more powerful than what most musicians and sound engineers had up until recently. Remember analog tape? BE HAPPY.

Software engineering is complex. So, complainers, go get a degree in computer science, programming, and sound engineering. Then design a program that works for every conceivable piece of hardware out there. Then give away a free, highly functional version of your product. Then include software upgrades with your high quality hardware, and also offer software upgrades for a modest price.

Then watch as people complain!

IMO, we should NOT ask why Free & Artist are missing things. We should say "Wow, even the Free and Artist versions sure include a ton!"
Thank you Presonus! And thanks to jbranam, a user here on the forums who has helped me out a ton as well!
 
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