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Anyone else using other mics instead of Shure ?
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your main vocal mics?
Shure 21% [ 14 ]
Sennheiser 31% [ 21 ]
Other 49% [ 33 ]
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lowdbrent
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tysonviolin wrote:Industry standard does not point to what Music stores are selling or even what people are using. It is referring to what is in the mic locker of pro sound companies. I would say sm58 is still number one here, along with the beta58. Drum mics are beta52 d112 d6 sm57 beta98 beta91 ksm32 sm81 akg c460 senn421 604. Guitar 409 609 906 sm 57 ksm32. 414 s are often available if you ask.

So, that being said, some sound companies carry other stuff but this is what covers most of their bases on touring riders. Many tours use the Heil mics, or nuemans etc, but they usually bring their own, therefore not industry standard.

I personally own and use a lot of mics but the Shures go on the stand for vocals the most because that is whats requested. My high end mics tend to sound better than a 58 on certain voices and techniques. Here is what I also carry for vocals:

Nueman kms 105
Earthworks SR69
Beta57
Akg 535
Audio Technica 5400



I was a touring engineer and system tech for 15+ years, have been doing contract installs and operating an SR and recording company since leaving the road, and work for a contractor and music store.

Shure is a standard. You cannot go buy what stores sell per se, because of marketing, spiffs, free freight, volume discounts, etc. We carry all of the major lines and some lines make more profit for us than others. From a touring and tech rider perspective, Shure has been a standard accepted by all for a long, long time. Now, there are endorsed artists that cannot use any other mic than what they are given to use. I have worked for some artists that did not care about endorsements and toured with their own vocal mics, because they chose what worked for their specific vocal and monitor needs.

We have done more than a few shoot-outs. We can sell Shure and Sennheiser side by side. We find that the e series Sennheiser 835s typically have more handling noise than a Shure SM58. The 835s are a bit less honky and a bit more beefy on the bottom end. You have to find what works for you.

The thing to know is the Shure PG stuff comes with the elements built for SM mics, that did not pass QC for whatever reason. In some cases this can be a real bargain.
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I have the standard line of Shure mics, because you have to in order to meet most riders. I like the Sennheiser 835s and 845s a lot, but if I can I'll try to get the singers on my current fave the Telefunken M-80. Awesome mic. Yes, a little more expensive than than a Beta 58, but so much smoother and easier to set in the mix. A/B comparison to one of my singer's Beta 87 and it was immediately noticeable as to smoother, and less eq needed.

Second choices are the Heil PR35 and PR22.

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Palaios wrote:I don´t own Shure´s but their sticker laying on my desk

I don´t even like Shure sound. Live or not. It´s just not my type of sound.

I chose AKG over other brands years ago and have been "happy" with them.

It´s not the brand but how You use it


To each their own. But I would suggest that no brand has a "sound". Each mic must be judged on it's own merit since few companies have a staff of engineers and product managers that spans the entire history of the company. In fact, the guys that made AKG, Sennheiser, Shure, EV, Crown, etc de facto standard mics are long gone.

The 58 will meet most any tech rider in a pinch. They are good to have if you are a rental systems provider. If you are a band, the mics should be purpose chosen for each vocalist/instrument/amp. Sometimes a mic that is not popular might be the answer to a specific need.

I use Neumann, Shure, Sennheiser, Schoeps, Earthworks, Crown and EV mics live.
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SM58's for vocals
Line6 XD-V75 wireless
Line6 XD-V70 wireless

SM57's for guitars

Drums:
5 - e604's
2 - e614's
2 - e602II's
SM 91

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I definitely agree that a mic doesn't have to say "Shure" on it to sound good; or even AT, EV, AKG, Senn., etc. That said, I snagged a KSM9 for $250, so guess what I use?
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Another big fan of the Heil PR-35 here. I have one wired and one wireless. I have a couple of the PR-22 model too; musicians (on the stage and in the crowd) always comment on how clear the vocals are! I generally use Heil all the time now unless I have a request for something different.

You may not care about wireless, but when I use them, I'm actually really impressed by the Line 6 mics (XD-V70 and XD-V75, specifically). They are "modeling" microphones that can sound like a handful of famous mics. They do a great good job at sounding like the real thing. I tested 4 of the "mic models" in the XD-V70 system against their "real life" microphone daddies, and 3 of the 4 sounded too close to tell the difference when the singer was on-axis. Too bad they can't digitally change the polar pattern too
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I use 935s a lot, better handling noise than the 8 series and better feedback rejection.
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knerr wrote:I definitely agree that a mic doesn't have to say "Shure" on it to sound good; or even AT, EV, AKG, Senn., etc. That said, I snagged a KSM9 for $250, so guess what I use?
I hate you... Jk

I recently picked up 3x Sennheiser e865 (Sting signature models) and am in love.
Electo Voice also just gave all dealers a rebate on all PL44 and PL84(condenser) models. I thought, what the heck, and bought some of both. Haven't used the PL84 yet but have used the PL44. The PL44 seems to have more presence than SM58, Beta58, Sennheiser e835. Oh did I mention I only paid $27ea for the PL44 & PL84. What a bargain! There are a few dealers that still have some at this price. Check eBay, Amazon, Music 123, etc.
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I am going to order one of these:http://audiopile.net/products/Microphones/V1_MICROPHONE/V1_cutsheet.shtml" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> http://audiopile.net/products/Microphones/V1_MICROPHONE/V1_cutsheet.shtml

I want to see if it sounds acceptable for backup vocals. Hey, at $30, it's a no-brainer.
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I tried a couple of different mics for our lead singer, and for his voice and microphone "style" I settled on the Audix OM5. Very clear mic, even when he eats the grille. It has less low-end presence up close than the 58, and a tighter pattern.
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Dale Christenson wrote:I am going to order one of these:http://audiopile.net/products/Microphones/V1_MICROPHONE/V1_cutsheet.shtml" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> http://audiopile.net/products/Microphones/V1_MICROPHONE/V1_cutsheet.shtml

I want to see if it sounds acceptable for backup vocals. Hey, at $30, it's a no-brainer.


Same thing as the Samsons. They have a presence peak that is worse than a stock 58, and their handling noise is much worse than a 58. Off axis rejection is not as good as a 58.
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I don't even have any Shure microphones.... well.. There is an SM58 in the bottom of the mic case that I never take out... just in case someone insists on one.. and an SM7 in the studio but don't use it live usually. Oh, there is also a Beta 57 in there which does see some use but not usually on vox.

My main vocal mics are usualy Sennheiser but I've got plenty of AKG, Rode, Beyer Dynamic and Audio Technica microphones in the case with me.

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I use a variety of mics depending on the situation and room. Usually Sennheiser and AKG vocal mics, Sennheiser and Audix drum mics, but there are times I use Shure. From my perspective I give people options. If they want their cab mic'd with an SM57 ok. If they want the Sennheiser 602, it's there. When I run sound I'm providing them what they want so why not offer flexibility
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Pair of Rhode NT3 Dynamic mics (one toward head of guitar, one below sound hole and a Fishman Blender/condenser line in for Guitar (Three total for acoustic Guitar), and an Audio Technica AT3035 for vocal recording. I do use the Shure 58 and a couple of other AT mics as well for vocals. Great sound very "fat and full. Like the high end acoustic guitar to give the full feel of a church organ. Mission accomplished.

The Shure Mics I think are much better performing Mics than they are recording mics.
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My go-to vocal mix is a EV ND767
 
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