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vmxgroove
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Well in that case, then double Hogwash on you! hehehehe Easy there dude. When is the last time you bought or played a CD? I mean really man... Get with it. That technology is obsolete. Discs are done. I rest my case... That's the point. It doesn't really matter. Do what works best for your particular situation. Don't confuse the guy with a buncha mumbo jumbo. He was looking for help with his khz conflict. Sometimes when you try new things you get pleasent results. Gotta keep an open mind to other ideas. He will no doubt try both settings and do what's best for his project.

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MikeRivers wrote:The point that I didn't make, because I didn't figure he'd believe me, is that the only thing that increasing the sample rate (assuming that's the only thing you do) does is increase the limit to the high frequency response. It doesn't increase the resolution, it doesn't lower the noise, it doesn't reduce distortion. It's doubtful (though I haven't tried a double-blind test) that even dogs can tell the difference between music that's band limited to 22 kHz or 24 kHz.


Rupert Neve ran some interesting tests in the early seventies about high frequency response. He took a 12Khz sine wave and a 12khz square wave gain balanced via a silent switch. He put a bunch of people behind a scrim and would switch between the two signals at random intervals. A large majority of the audience could differentiate between the two signals. They could say one was better or worse but they knew when it changes. Give that the first harmonic of a 12Khz square wave is 24Khz, the two signals should sound the same to humans, but didn't. It was one of the reasons for Neve running the upper frequency limits so high.

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vmxgroove wrote:Well in that case, then double Hogwash on you! hehehehe Easy there dude. When is the last time you bought or played a CD? I mean really man... Get with it. That technology is obsolete. Discs are done. I rest my case... That's the point. It doesn't really matter. Do what works best for your particular situation. Don't confuse the guy with a buncha mumbo jumbo. He was looking for help with his khz conflict. Sometimes when you try new things you get pleasent results. Gotta keep an open mind to other ideas. He will no doubt try both settings and do what's best for his project.

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Not only do I play them, I record them and sell them. And if I were to get with it I would be listening to compressed to death mp3s through $4 ear buds. I'm sorry that you are so easily confused.

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vmxgroove
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Oh I see now. I'm sorry that your still on CDs. That's why you're so big on 44.1 For you that is best. Wow, you really got people still buyin CDs? That's amazing. Most music distribution is done via streaming and download these days. Not quite the best quality. I sure do miss vinyl records. I don't think the original post made clear if he was going to CD. I think he was simply just trying to record. It would depend on what his final product is. Hopefully we haven't sidetracked his thread too much.
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vmxgroove wrote:Oh I see now. I'm sorry that your still on CDs. That's why you're so big on 44.1 For you that is best. Wow, you really got people still buyin CDs? That's amazing. Most music distribution is done via streaming and download these days. Not quite the best quality. I sure do miss vinyl records. I don't think the original post made clear if he was going to CD. I think he was simply just trying to record. It would depend on what his final product is. Hopefully we haven't sidetracked his thread too much.


$249 gets you a 100 CDs in cases, physical distribution, iTunes, Zune, Amazon, Digstation, Napster and a few other flavors. I can also buy / resells cards with download codes at live shows, but people really don't trust them even though I sell them at 75% of physical CDs - they want the real ones, even if they rip them as soon as they get home.

Online sales the downloads win, in person they want the pretty case and the actual disc.

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Yeah, I miss albums. remember when they used to put posters or even t-shirts in with the album? It used to be great to look at the art work on albums. I miss that. You're right, the download stuff doesn't come with anything. I guess Napster messed that all up. I think iTunes will let you download the cover art but it's not the same. I have a disc publishing machine. Duplicates CDs and DVDs and then prints art right on the discs! Looks great but unfortunately the darn thing just collects dust. Everybody has an iPod now. Soon, DVDs will go too. Streaming, On-Demand and download will take over. Seems to take a lot of the art talent out of the products. Hey that's a good idea with the download cards. At least you can print something cool on that. It seems that marketing to multiple outlets is the way to go. It's awesome that musicians can distribute their own stuff without a huge record company behind them. Makes it more honest.
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